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Originally posted by diskamyl
I checked out the DVD you are talking about, it's highly praised, and I'm convinced it's very good, but after finding out he doesn't cover the winawer too (which is my main line after 3.Nc3), I think I would better look for other resources where I could learn more about my own repertuare, considering the dvd is really expensive. Thanks again though.
yes, he does not cover the winawer variation, but rather interestingly he states that if you want an advantage as white you should play the 3.Nc3 line, although not necessarily the winawer!

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
4..Qb6 is a 'good move', it combines an attack on the center with an attack on the b pawn, however Ziegler says that he does not like this move, 'its too early to decide that the queen should go there, no we should wait with the queen ....
yeah yeah yeah

and Moskalenko's new(ish) book The Flexible French likes ... Qb6 and not ... Bd7.

You say potato and I say potato (that probably comes across better out loud!?)

It's a matter of taste. Personally I prefer ... Qb6 but that doesn't mean I think it's 'better' than ... Bd7. To state the reverse is equally stupid.

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Originally posted by diskamyl
I still cannot believe Nh6 can possibly be a good move, and it's completely against the nature of the opening ...
... Nh6 is a pretty common move in the French Advance - though I must admit I don't prefer to play it on move five.


Incidentally, as you were mentioning you're interested in looking at resources in the French you may want to check out Moskalenko's The Flexible French. It's not comprehensive but it does cover limited areas in great depth. There's a few chapters on the Winawer for example. You'll want to check the contents precisely before you buy though to make sure it covers the areas you want.

Personally I think it's the best book i've bought for quite some time.

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there is also an interesting little variation on the Nh6 line which is of interest to those players of the French when facing the maneuver when white tries to defend the d4 square with his knight, e.g. 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 c5 4. c3 Nc6 5. Nf3 Bd7 6. Be2 Ne7 7.Na3 Nf5 8.Nc2, and many white players may think twice after 6.Nh6 because they think it will be bad after the following



however Zeigler states that he would never dream of such a move as Bxa3 as the dark squared bishop in the french is such a powerful piece!

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Originally posted by JonathanB of London
yeah yeah yeah

and Moskalenko's new(ish) book The Flexible French likes ... Qb6 and not ... Bd7.

You say potato and I say potato (that probably comes across better out loud!?)

It's a matter of taste. Personally I prefer ... Qb6 but that doesn't mean I think it's 'better' than ... Bd7. To state the reverse is equally stupid.
sorry but who is it that is saying one is, 'better', than the other? and whats with the 'yeah yeah yeah', have you been listening to the Beatles and its stuck in your head? she loves Qb6 yeah yeah yeah? na its just lost something along the way, i prefer the original!

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
sorry but who is it that is saying one is, 'better', than the other?
Well you were quoting Ziegler saying ... Qb6 is 'too early' were you not?

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Originally posted by JonathanB of London
Well you were quoting Ziegler saying ... Qb6 is 'too early' were you not?
there were three reasons for Ziegler stating that he preferred Bd7 as opposed to Qb6, the first was that the queen is very powerful on d8 as it stands, the second that he PREFERRED to wait with his queen, the third was that it was to play against the white bishop on f1, as it prevented Bb5 and practically prevented Bd3, three perfectly valid reasons, he DID NOT STATE THAT IT WAS BETTER, on the contrary he stated that Qb6 was a good move,did he not? if there are as equally valid reasons for playing the move Qb6 rather than Bd7 then let them be heard! so that we may examine the pros and cons.

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Originally posted by diskamyl
how can you people play ...Na6 ?. I'm a french player too (exclusively, even), and I know it's part of theory, perfectly OK etc, but that move really makes me sick 🙂 I'm sorry to learn Watson advises that line, I was planning to study that book next year.
Well the idea of 7...Nh6 is to discourage White from developing his queen knight to c2 via a3. This knight is headed towards the important outpost at f5.