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  1. 12 Oct '06 11:46
    I've been playing chess online for nearly 4 years however I've got to the stage where I just feel I'm not improving and just looking for any tips to get past this stumbling block.

    My highest rating on playchess is around 1750 however I think my real rating is around 1550 taking into account the average level I'm playing against and my success rate against higher ranking players. I enjoy playing fast chess, I usually play blitz(5min) and bullet(1min, rating of around 1900) Is this one of the reasons I'm not getting any better ? Is playing longer games the better way to success ?

    Will playing longer games against higher ranking players help me improve or will this result in me making the same mistakes over and over again yet over a longer distance I'm sure most people have experienced this, just looking for some ideas so I can get past it and improve.
  2. 12 Oct '06 12:10 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Audacious
    I've been playing chess online for nearly 4 years however I've got to the stage where I just feel I'm not improving and just looking for any tips to get past this stumbling block.

    My highest rating on playchess is around 1750 however I think my real rating is around 1550 taking into account the average level I'm playing against and my success rate again eople have experienced this, just looking for some ideas so I can get past it and improve.
    Playing slow chess will make your 5 min chess better, playing excessive 1/5 min chess without slow chess (ie at least 2 mins per a move)/study will probably harm your over all chess ability.
  3. 12 Oct '06 17:06
    Originally posted by Bedlam
    playing excessive 1/5 min chess without slow chess (ie at least 2 mins per a move)/study will probably harm your over all chess ability.
    yeah right. stereotypes rule eh?
  4. 12 Oct '06 18:03
    Originally posted by Jusuh
    yeah right. stereotypes rule eh?
    Pretty much.
  5. 12 Oct '06 18:05
    Originally posted by Audacious
    I've been playing chess online for nearly 4 years however I've got to the stage where I just feel I'm not improving and just looking for any tips to get past this stumbling block.

    My highest rating on playchess is around 1750 however I think my real rating is around 1550 taking into account the average level I'm playing against and my success rate again ...[text shortened]... eople have experienced this, just looking for some ideas so I can get past it and improve.
    Join a chess club and start playing slow games and read chess books if you can.

    Tactics are also important and easiest way to gain points.
  6. 12 Oct '06 18:13
    Originally posted by RahimK
    Join a chess club and start playing slow games and read chess books if you can.

    Tactics are also important and easiest way to gain points.
    I tried my local chess club however they never used clocks (which I found really annoying) and the average age of the club must of been around 60+ lol.

    I've got most of the chessbase learning DVD's however they mostly deal with opening moves, I think I'll try to work some more on middle and end game.
  7. 12 Oct '06 18:17
    Originally posted by Audacious
    I tried my local chess club however they never used clocks (which I found really annoying) and the average age of the club must of been around 60+ lol.

    I've got most of the chessbase learning DVD's however they mostly deal with opening moves, I think I'll try to work some more on middle and end game.
    Interesting. Is that the only club? We have something like that also but it's for seniors but anyone can go, $0.50 a visit.

    Then we have an actual club with clock and players of all strengths.

    I used to play lots of blitz on yahoo, icc etc... . Over 2000+ in 2 years on yahoo. Didn't do anything for me, around 1300-1400.

    Then I joined a club and took chess seriously and in 2 years I am at 1852.

    I don't think blitz games help you improve much. Slow games do.
  8. 12 Oct '06 18:23
    I just played some slow games on playchess (16min) I won 3 out of 4 however I always tend to view the persons blitz rating as well and more often than not it's real low compared to there slow games. For example something like blitz 1200 slow 1700 which for me seems a little too big a margin. So I begin to think that isn't much of victory because his blitz rating is 1200. So it's a bit of a mental block with me

    I'm deffo going to try and play more slow games.
  9. 12 Oct '06 18:28
    Originally posted by Audacious
    I just played some slow games on playchess (16min) I won 3 out of 4 however I always tend to view the persons blitz rating as well and more often than not it's real low compared to there slow games. For example something like blitz 1200 slow 1700 which for me seems a little too big a margin. So I begin to think that isn't much of victory because his blitz ...[text shortened]... it's a bit of a mental block with me

    I'm deffo going to try and play more slow games.
    Playing online just isn't the same.

    You don't have someone breathing down your neck, the big crowd watching every move you make, if you lose they give you heck, if you win they congradulate you.

    Online you lose big deal, start another game. No pressure.

    Otb you lose and you have to think about that lose for the rest of the week till you get to play again. There is pressure to perform and you want to get better to please the crowd, win some cash/trophy.

    That's why I study so hard. I see other people playing good and I get sick of playing bad, I can beat them so you study. Incentive.
  10. 12 Oct '06 18:30
    Originally posted by Jusuh
    yeah right. stereotypes rule eh?
    I thought you left RHP...
  11. 12 Oct '06 19:15
    Originally posted by Audacious
    I just played some slow games on playchess (16min) I won 3 out of 4 however I always tend to view the persons blitz rating as well and more often than not it's real low compared to there slow games. For example something like blitz 1200 slow 1700 which for me seems a little too big a margin. So I begin to think that isn't much of victory because his blitz ...[text shortened]... it's a bit of a mental block with me

    I'm deffo going to try and play more slow games.
    People who play fast chess well usually have an innate ability that will help them excel in slow games. It's also a sign for young players that they have a talent for the game. With that said, many slow players are not able to play well in fast games. It's because they were never genetically designed for it. Luckily, I wasn't made by God to be that type of player, because I adore blitz. It's addictive. And, I love my clock.
  12. 12 Oct '06 19:20
    Originally posted by Audacious
    I've been playing chess online for nearly 4 years however I've got to the stage where I just feel I'm not improving and just looking for any tips to get past this stumbling block.
    If you are getting the same results, change your methodology. You cannot do the same thing and expect to garner different results. Twenty years from now you will still be in the same spot unless you learn from your mistakes. If you cannot beat GNUChess now, study practice tactics, analyse games and then see if you can do so in a few weeks time.
  13. Standard member anthias
    ambitious player
    12 Oct '06 19:44
    Every single chess player has his/her unique way to improve. If one wants to improve, it is essential for him to have the proper basics of the game, and I mean without prejudices such as "doubled pawns are always weak". Most players find out their way of learning by themselves, and it takes an exhausting effort. Most people give up because they feel that such hard work takes the fun out of chess.

    For example, I played blitz chess for about 2 monts and did nothing else. As a result, I found out it did nothing for my tourney games, so I dropped it to 5- 10 games a day. Now I am planning to have a book-only plan starting with the Winning Chess series, Jeremy Silman's books, John Watson's Middlegame books and Think Like a Grandmaster by Kotov.

    I cannot decide such a plan easily because this whole reading schedule will probably finish in about 2-3 years, and it would devastate me if I find out I can't do it for some reason. So I plan to start it about in a month. I am thinking I should solve some tactical problems too, but I am not sure about which book to have.

    To improve in chess, and I mean really IMPROVE, I think one should come up with a plan and stick to it, just like he should do in a game.
  14. 12 Oct '06 20:34
    Originally posted by Audacious
    I've been playing chess online for nearly 4 years however I've got to the stage where I just feel I'm not improving and just looking for any tips to get past this stumbling block.

    My highest rating on playchess is around 1750 however I think my real rating is around 1550 taking into account the average level I'm playing against and my success rate again ...[text shortened]... eople have experienced this, just looking for some ideas so I can get past it and improve.
    I kinda have the same problem. I hav been playing chess for a year now, and was rapidly improving up until this point. My ratings at playchess are about the same as yours. I think it is because I have bee playing constant bullet and blitz and not enough slow. I usually play OTB at a club but I haven't been able to go in a while so that may be the reason my play has been slipping. I just started doing tactical problems and I think that will help.