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  1. 27 Aug '10 21:56
    What would be her value, points wise?

    What strategies would change?

    What other weird things may happen? (For instance, she'd be able to checkmate a king against the side or back of the board with no other pieces).

    Apologies, but this idea came to me while attempting to sleep last night and I had to see what others thought.
  2. 27 Aug '10 22:12 / 1 edit
    I would have lost about £500 over the past 30 years.

    When coaching kids if any of them are Queen happy and
    try to win with games just by moving their Queen
    I show them a position like this.



    and offer them £5.00 if they can mate that King.

    They soon get the idea that even the mighty Queen needs help.

    This Quight or Kneen (there is a chess variant that has such a piece)
    I'd lose as this checkmate.



    This is a new stalemate pattern.

  3. 27 Aug '10 22:14
    Originally posted by hagwas
    What would be her value, points wise?

    What strategies would change?

    What other weird things may happen? (For instance, she'd be able to checkmate a king against the side or back of the board with no other pieces).

    Apologies, but this idea came to me while attempting to sleep last night and I had to see what others thought.
    No more fool's mate :'(


    toet.
  4. 27 Aug '10 22:20
    This is a new Fools Mate.

  5. 27 Aug '10 22:25 / 2 edits
    and the Schollboy attack works as well.



    So Black has to play 3...Qe6!

  6. Standard member SwissGambit
    Caninus Interruptus
    27 Aug '10 22:37 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    This is a new Fools Mate.

    [pgn]
    1. e3 e6 2. g3 Qf6 3. Ne2 Qf3[/pgn]
    There are still 2-mover fool's mates:


    1.e3


    1...Qc6



  7. 27 Aug '10 23:12
    That's the one I was looking for.

    OK SG. explain this.



    What happened to get this and how can one argue this is legal?

    I like this line Where White tries to get the Queens off.

  8. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    27 Aug '10 23:19
    Kudos to everybody- this is an extremely entertaining thread! Who da thunk!
  9. 28 Aug '10 05:26
    Have you guys thought about how many squares it would attack at once? Put the queen in the center and it's almost attacking the entire board.
  10. Standard member SwissGambit
    Caninus Interruptus
    28 Aug '10 06:09 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    That's the one I was looking for.

    OK SG. explain this.

    [fen]2b5/Bk6/pP1P4/8/7p/6bK/6B1/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]

    What happened to get this and how can one argue this is legal?
    The position was:



    White claimed that en passant was specifically invented to prevent players from turning a loss into a win by using a two-step pawn advance. He argues that the pawn never actually reaches d5, and thus his checkmate was never nullified by black. Of course, he loses the argument
  11. Standard member SwissGambit
    Caninus Interruptus
    28 Aug '10 06:14 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    Have you guys thought about how many squares it would attack at once? Put the queen in the center and it's almost attacking the entire board.
    Of course, because the inventor of chess came up with the moves of the pieces by dividing control of a 5x5 square amongst the pieces.



    The Queen used to be the Counselor, moving only one diagonal square at a time.
    The Bishop used to be the Alfil, jumping only two diagonal squares at a time.
    The Knight got the 'leftover' squares.
    The Rook's move has not changed either.

    So, this new Q+N piece, being a combination of all of these four, naturally controls the whole 5x5 grid, with Q extensions.
  12. 28 Aug '10 11:35
    Correct SG.

    I saw it once as this.



    And there quite a debate about it.

    Mind you chess players will argue about anything.
    I was on a train coming back from a Congress in Glasgow and quite a
    heated argument broke out amongst the players over a crossword clue.
  13. 28 Aug '10 11:43
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Correct SG.

    I saw it once as this.

    [fen]1bb5/1k1p4/pP6/P1P3p1/7p/7K/6B1/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]

    And there quite a debate about it.

    Mind you chess players will argue about anything.
    I was on a train coming back from a Congress in Glasgow and quite a
    heated argument broke out amongst the players over a crossword clue.
    Cross words?
  14. 28 Aug '10 13:46
    7 chess players on a train.

    One decides to do a crossword puzzle and nobody is interested.

    Suddenly someone suggest we all do one clue each and pass it
    to the player sitting next to us.

    AH. A Competition. All the players are now interested.

    6 clues in and one players questions anothers solution.

    Bedlam.
  15. 28 Aug '10 14:03 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    7 chess players on a train.

    One decides to do a crossword puzzle and nobody is interested.

    Suddenly someone suggest we all do one clue each and pass it
    to the player sitting next to us.

    AH. A Competition. All the players are now interested.

    6 clues in and one players questions anothers solution.

    Bedlam.
    7 chess players on a train.



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