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  1. Standard member byedidia
    Mister Why
    22 Oct '14 20:48
    I encountered a new tactical motif I've never seen before. Black to move.


    After 1 ... Nxg4, white cannot take back because the pawn is busy blocking the black pawn on f4. The pawn is not pinned... What is it?
  2. Subscriber Marinkatomb
    wotagr8game
    22 Oct '14 21:31
    Originally posted by byedidia
    I encountered a new tactical motif I've never seen before. Black to move.

    [fen]r1q2r1k/2p3bp/1p1p1np1/3Pp2n/1PP1PpP1/2N2P2/2N1Q1KP/1R2R1B1 b - - 0 1[/fen]
    After 1 ... Nxg4, white cannot take back because the pawn is busy blocking the black pawn on f4. The pawn is not pinned... What is it?
    That would be a discovered fork, I guess. It's a neat tactic. 🙂
  3. Standard member byedidia
    Mister Why
    23 Oct '14 06:16
    Originally posted by Marinkatomb
    That would be a discovered fork, I guess. It's a neat tactic. 🙂
    It's not a discovered fork because a discovery should be made by your own piece.
  4. 23 Oct '14 07:10
    I'd call it a form of deflection.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deflection_%28chess%29
  5. Subscriber Marinkatomb
    wotagr8game
    23 Oct '14 09:34
    Well then, how about calling it a simple blunder?
  6. Subscriber BigDoggProblem
    The Advanced Mind
    23 Oct '14 14:54
    Originally posted by Marinkatomb
    Well then, how about calling it a simple blunder?
    I've always been partial to the term 'bad thing!' for tactics like these. Highly specific.
  7. Standard member ChessPraxis
    Cowboy From Hell
    27 Oct '14 04:33
    Clearance sacrifice
  8. Standard member byedidia
    Mister Why
    27 Oct '14 04:47
    Originally posted by ChessPraxis
    Clearance sacrifice
    Yes! You are right. It looks different than most clearance sacs but that's what it is.
  9. Subscriber moonbus
    Uber-Nerd
    27 Oct '14 04:57
    Originally posted by ChessPraxis
    Clearance sacrifice
    "Clearance sacrifice" is a nice term, but this isn't such a case since the N on g4 will not be taken/sacrificed. After Nxg4, the N is poison. Why it's poison is rather clever, yes.
  10. Standard member ChessPraxis
    Cowboy From Hell
    27 Oct '14 17:35 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by moonbus
    "Clearance sacrifice" is a nice term, but this isn't such a case since the N on g4 will not be taken/sacrificed. After Nxg4, the N is poison. Why it's poison is rather clever, yes.
    A sacrifice needn't be accepted in order to qualify.
    It really isn't a true sacrifice, as the benefit of the tactic is clearly evident to nearly any player. Except for duffers like me in blitz or when I am not focused. 🙂
    Maybe Poisoned Clearance Sale. 🙂
  11. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    28 Oct '14 00:01
    Originally posted by ChessPraxis
    A sacrifice needn't be accepted in order to qualify.
    It really isn't a true sacrifice, as the benefit of the tactic is clearly evident to nearly any player. Except for duffers like me in blitz or when I am not focused. 🙂
    Maybe Poisoned Clearance Sale. 🙂
    Every time I have wanted to post on this thread, ChessPraxis said it first. We've clearly read the same books!
  12. Standard member ChessPraxis
    Cowboy From Hell
    28 Oct '14 02:35
    Originally posted by Paul Leggett
    Every time I have wanted to post on this thread, ChessPraxis said it first. We've clearly read the same books!
    LOL
    I think you got more out of them though Paul. 🙂
    "The Art of Sacrifice in Chess" influences my classification of sacs.
  13. 28 Oct '14 17:49
    I would go with "Attempted Clearance Pseudo-Sacrifice".
  14. Standard member ChessPraxis
    Cowboy From Hell
    28 Oct '14 18:42
    How about "The Billy Bob?" I don't think that's been used in chess terminology.
  15. Subscriber moonbus
    Uber-Nerd
    29 Oct '14 12:44
    Originally posted by Paul Leggett
    Every time I have wanted to post on this thread, ChessPraxis said it first. We've clearly read the same books!
    That or you ARE CP and just don't know it yet. Schizoid man.