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  1. 06 Nov '07 00:56
    http://www.redhotpawn.com/profile/playerprofile.php?uid=272521

    I basicly agreed to two games with a 1400 player. His rating has dropped down to like 400. Also he was taking ages over his moves in the opening too. Anyway he has just resigned a game against me at move 5 but I lose rating points still. WTF?
  2. Standard member Dutch Defense
    Stealer of Souls
    06 Nov '07 00:59
    Originally posted by Kaworukun
    http://www.redhotpawn.com/profile/playerprofile.php?uid=272521

    I basicly agreed to two games with a 1400 player. His rating has dropped down to like 400. Also he was taking ages over his moves in the opening too. Anyway he has just resigned a game against me at move 5 but I lose rating points still. WTF?
    User 272521

    Looks like he has 358 games in progress and resigned most of his games.
  3. 06 Nov '07 15:50
    Originally posted by Kaworukun
    http://www.redhotpawn.com/profile/playerprofile.php?uid=272521
    ...but I lose rating points still....
    FAQ
  4. 06 Nov '07 15:50
    I think he is griefing. When I sent him a message he just laughed.
  5. Standard member Fleabitten
    Love thy bobblehead
    06 Nov '07 16:22
    Maybe he's shooting for lowest rating on the site.
  6. 06 Nov '07 16:25
    Originally posted by HolyT
    FAQ
    IN case you haven't read this, until you've completed 20 games, you rating is provisional and is based on averages of your opponents ratings + 400 for a win, - 400 for a loss.
  7. Standard member MetBierOp
    Dutch
    06 Nov '07 16:49
    Originally posted by Fleabitten
    Maybe he's shooting for lowest rating on the site.
    at the moment he is
  8. 06 Nov '07 17:10
    Originally posted by Kaworukun
    http://www.redhotpawn.com/profile/playerprofile.php?uid=272521

    I basicly agreed to two games with a 1400 player. His rating has dropped down to like 400. Also he was taking ages over his moves in the opening too. Anyway he has just resigned a game against me at move 5 but I lose rating points still. WTF?
    You are stil a provisional player, That is why.
  9. Standard member Red Night
    RHP Prophet
    06 Nov '07 19:10
    Originally posted by Fleabitten
    Maybe he's shooting for lowest rating on the site.
    I wonder how low your rating could go?
  10. 06 Nov '07 19:54
    Originally posted by Red Night
    I wonder how low your rating could go?
    Hmm, that's kind of interesting. I don't see anything in the formula that would put any absolute lower limit on a rating (even at 0), but maybe I'm missing something.

    Only problem is you have to play someone within 720 points of you to have your rating change, which eventually becomes tough to do.
  11. 06 Nov '07 21:13
    Originally posted by incandenza
    Hmm, that's kind of interesting. I don't see anything in the formula that would put any absolute lower limit on a rating (even at 0), but maybe I'm missing something.

    Only problem is you have to play someone within 720 points of you to have your rating change, which eventually becomes tough to do.
    one person would have to be the "subject" shooting for lowest...
    there would have to be a hundred other people playing him, and he'd resign all of them, eventually, he'll go out of they're 720 point range, so you bring in another 100 who have obnoxiously lower ratings, and they'd all have to help the "subject" go lower...
    it'd be interesting to see a clan dedicated to achieving a rating of 0 this is possible because once the rating hits 0.49999999999999999... or lower, it'll round down to zero...
    that'd be a marvel!
  12. 06 Nov '07 21:18 / 2 edits
    Thing is, I don't see why it would even round down to 0. If you have two people playing who both have ratings of 10, the formula would seem to indicate that whoever loses, loses 16 points. So there would have to be a separate check, not mentioned in the formula, to lock it at 0.

    If that check is not in there, you could potentially wind up with a negative rating. And since that situation has never come up in practice, it would be easy for that check to be missing...
  13. 06 Nov '07 21:42
    There's no need for a "check" to prevent ratings lower than zero. The rating is a mark on a scale, like a degree scale for measuring temperature--it's not a counting measure of a quantity of something.
  14. 06 Nov '07 21:51
    Originally posted by HolyT
    There's no need for a "check" to prevent ratings lower than zero. The rating is a mark on a scale, like a degree scale for measuring temperature--it's not a counting measure of a quantity of something.
    Well, when it comes to actually writing the code there is a need for a check. If you just blindly implement that formula with no check, you will wind up allowing negative ratings. The code doesn't know what you think the numbers mean.
  15. Standard member fennyin
    Crack Suicide Squad
    06 Nov '07 21:54
    What he means (I think) is there's no reason to keep ratings from going negative.