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  1. 26 Oct '06 18:27 / 2 edits
    Quite proud to get myself in the situation at move 24 - seemed like a win was on its way. But couldnt get the mate. Then thought that the passed pawns would more than compensate for being a knight down.

    Where did i go wrong? did i get distrated by the pawns on AB and C files (isolating my rook). was mate possible? any feedback appreaciated.

    Obviously the game ended with a huge blunder....but i dont need advice on that. Allthough i would be interested if people think that black had a winning position allready by that point.

    Game 2564593
  2. 26 Oct '06 18:41 / 2 edits
    During the game, I thought 36.h3 was a BIG mistake by you, I was expecting you to play 36.Kh3. I think after 36.Kh3, you would have a much better position (close to winning if it's not winning). After 43.Rxh3+, the game was over, I think black is clearly winning there.

    I don't think a mate was possible.
  3. 26 Oct '06 19:13 / 1 edit
    25. Qh5+ Kg7
    26. Rg6+ Kf7
    27. Qh7+ wins queen

    so does, 27. Rxb6+

    White definately wins here, unless i overlooked something

    Edit: i overlooked 25. Qh7 as a reply
  4. 26 Oct '06 19:16 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by mazziewag
    25. Qh5+ Kg7
    26. Rg6+ Kf7
    27. Qh7+ wins queen

    so does, 27. Rxb6+

    White definately wins here, unless i overlooked something

    Edit: i overlooked 25. Qh7 as a reply
    25.Qh5+ Qh7
  5. 26 Oct '06 19:34 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by skims
    25.Qh5+ Qh7
    23. Rxg6 wins immediately i think, if Kh7, Rxb6+ winning queen, and if Ke7 queen comes in and drives king, with rook (in multiple ways-depending on replys) to empty d-file then Rd1 wins

    Edit: i felt the need to make up for the above post
  6. 26 Oct '06 19:53 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by mazziewag
    23. Rxg6 wins immediately i think, if Kh7, Rxb6+ winning queen, and if Ke7 queen comes in and drives king, with rook (in multiple ways-depending on replys) to empty d-file then Rd1 wins

    Edit: i felt the need to make up for the above post
    23.Rxg6 is not possible, do you mean 24.Rxg6?
  7. 26 Oct '06 19:56
    Originally posted by skims
    23.Rxg6 is not possible, do you mean 24.Rxg6?
    yes.
  8. 26 Oct '06 20:42
    Originally posted by mazziewag
    yes.
    24.Rxg6 Kh8 is equal
  9. 26 Oct '06 23:06
    Originally posted by mazziewag
    23. Rxg6 wins immediately i think, if Kh7, Rxb6+ winning queen, and if Ke7 queen comes in and drives king, with rook (in multiple ways-depending on replys) to empty d-file then Rd1 wins

    Edit: i felt the need to make up for the above post
    With Ke7 I guess you mean Kf7. I don't exactly follow you, what you do you mean after that? 25.Rxg8 Rxg8 is a nice try but doesn't work out very well for white when Kxg8 24...Kf7 25.Rf1+ Ke8 26.Re6+ on the other hand, but again, black playes Kh8 and not Kf7.
  10. 27 Oct '06 09:49
    23...Ng8 was a horrible move by me - much better would have been 23...Ne4. But still, I'm not sure if there was a chance for mate...it was an interesting game though.
  11. 27 Oct '06 19:23
    Indeed it was. Thanks for the input guys. Good game Skims
  12. 27 Oct '06 21:16 / 1 edit
    I'm looking at it and at first I stop at move 10...c5 and think... what would I do? I'd probably play 11.d5 because I have heard that the d5 square is an important square to controll... at which point black can choose to close off the center with 11...e5 and then white should expand on the queenside with a3-b4 or maybe even a minority attack with a4-a5 (kinda risky) in order to pull blacks pieces away from the kingside, and then attack on the kingside if possible. or else black can play 11...exd5 12.exd5 and blacks bishop is blocked in where as your bishop has better movement!

    This may have had a large influence on how the rest of the game played out, and it is such a small move that it seems insignificant when in fact it may have made all the difference in the world.

    Other than that, I can't see much beyond what has already been posted.

    Edit: Also, 11.d5 seems like the natural move to make because it creates the strongest pawn-formation possible as well as a hole in the enemy camp on c6
  13. 29 Oct '06 04:10
    I saw a force draw by White
  14. 29 Oct '06 21:05
    Originally posted by jonzzzz
    I saw a force draw by White
    what is it?
  15. Standard member Dragon Fire
    Lord of all beasts
    30 Oct '06 22:57 / 4 edits
    You need to get the other Rook into the game Re1 - e4 - h4 is the plan but is there time?

    After the Queens go off Kg2 was a waste. You need that Rook behind the pawn so Re1 was probably best. I would certainly prefer white here as those 3 passed pawns should be decisive but you just started dropping them.

    Perhaps 31. g4 is the best try. I don't know why you gave away that passed e pawn so lightly. If Rf7+ .. Kg3 is safe and if Nf7 it deprives the Rook of the f file and Kf4 becomes possible followed by h4 and those passed pawns are moving, when I really fancy white chances.

    Passed pawns should be supported by Rooks and pushed..........

    The worst you should have got is a draw as R & N vs R is almost certainly a draw.