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Polgar targets national chess group, associates in lawsuit
By Marlena Hartz | AVALANCHE-JOURNAL
Tuesday, August 12, 2008

The above headline caught my attention. Another fine example of chess players growing up and becoming inept, misfit adults running the USCF. Polgar has been a great promoter of chess, the USCF has been the extreme opposite in effectiveness.

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The USCF has had severe problems for many years, and the egos of Polgar and Truong, as well as their dishonesty, aggravate matters. The USCF will begin to function as an effective organization when board members are elected for their management skills. Polgar does a lot for chess, but when she gets into politics, her incompetence shines.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
The USCF has had severe problems for many years, and the egos of Polgar and Truong, as well as their dishonesty, aggravate matters. The USCF will begin to function as an effective organization when board members are elected for their management skills. Polgar does a lot for chess, but when she gets into politics, her incompetence shines.
I completely agree with Wulebgr.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
The USCF has had severe problems for many years, and the egos of Polgar and Truong, as well as their dishonesty, aggravate matters. The USCF will begin to function as an effective organization when board members are elected for their management skills. Polgar does a lot for chess, but when she gets into politics, her incompetence shines.
Exactly. While Polgar - and to lesser extent, Truong - bring a lot to the table for the USCF, they also seem very inflexible and egotistical, which wipes out most of the tremendous gains they could be making for chess in the US. Some of the stuff that went on during their election campaigns (and since) would have been hilarious if not for the fact that I'd like to see some progress at the USCF.

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Here's the latest New York Times article about the USCF mess.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/17/crosswords/chess/17fight.html?_r=1&ref=nyregion&oref=slogin


My mood has recently alternated between two extremes. Sometimes I think I'm going to quit this completely dysfunctional organization. And sometimes I think the entertainment value of this completely dysfunctional organization far exceeds the price of admission. I'm not sure which mood will ultimately prevail.

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Originally posted by Mad Rook
Here's the latest New York Times article about the USCF mess.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/17/crosswords/chess/17fight.html?_r=1&ref=nyregion&oref=slogin


My mood has recently alternated between two extremes. Sometimes I think I'm going to quit this completely dysfunctional organization. And sometimes I think the entertainment value of this complet ...[text shortened]... nization far exceeds the price of admission. I'm not sure which mood will ultimately prevail.
It is certainly entertaining! The sooner it is sorted out the better though.

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Originally posted by tonytiger41
Polgar targets national chess group, associates in lawsuit
By Marlena Hartz | AVALANCHE-JOURNAL
Tuesday, August 12, 2008

The above headline caught my attention. Another fine example of chess players growing up and becoming inept, misfit adults running the USCF. Polgar has been a great promoter of chess, the USCF has been the extreme opposite in effectiveness.
It isn't just the USCF, but many state affiliates as well. here in Northern California, chess tournaments for adults are practically non-existant. I find this frustrating, because I have to believe that with all the brain power contained in the (arguably) best public university system in the country, not to mention Silicon Valley, that with a little effective promotion that something more than just an annual state championship could happen. I look in Chess Life and states like Colorado, with could state groups, have several tournaments a year. It is as if to CalChess if you're over the age of 10 you don't count. A couple of clubs run the occassional small tournament, but nothing major.

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Originally posted by CalWriter
It isn't just the USCF, but many state affiliates as well. here in Northern California, chess tournaments for adults are practically non-existant. I find this frustrating, because I have to believe that with all the brain power contained in the (arguably) best public university system in the country, not to mention Silicon Valley, that with a little effe ...[text shortened]... you don't count. A couple of clubs run the occassional small tournament, but nothing major.
2008 CalChess Labor Day Championships looks to be a fairly major event coming up in San Francisco. There are also tourneys in Modesta and Santa Rosa in September. Not exactly "non-existent".

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Originally posted by no1marauder
2008 CalChess Labor Day Championships looks to be a fairly major event coming up in San Francisco. There are also tourneys in Modesta and Santa Rosa in September. Not exactly "non-existent".
Labor Day is a fairly big one, the other two are pretty small/

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Originally posted by CalWriter
Labor Day is a fairly big one, the other two are pretty small/
Some of the largest annual tournaments west of the Appalachians take place in Las Vegas, Reno, and Los Angeles--all effectively in California (but not northern). San Francisco's Mechanics Institute leads the way in northern California.

What's wrong with small? I play in club events in my town that have a dozen people, and when I was in the 1600s seemed to play the same guy in round one of every event.

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Originally posted by tonytiger41
Polgar targets national chess group, associates in lawsuit
By Marlena Hartz | AVALANCHE-JOURNAL
Tuesday, August 12, 2008

The above headline caught my attention. Another fine example of chess players growing up and becoming inept, misfit adults running the USCF. Polgar has been a great promoter of chess, the USCF has been the extreme opposite in effectiveness.
I was a USCF member for years, no more. The USCF is
run by people with BIG ego's, more interested in there own
agenda, than chess. I play chess via ICCF or Red Hot Pawn.

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OTB events offer competition that cannot be found online. In the United States, that means that one must be a member of the USCF. There's really no choice.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
OTB events offer competition that cannot be found online. In the United States, that means that one must be a member of the USCF. There's really no choice.
And you don't have to play engines.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
And you don't have to play engines.
... unless they have access to http://www.chessninja.com/images/computer-toilet.jpg (Kramnik's bathroom)

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
... unless they have access to http://www.chessninja.com/images/computer-toilet.jpg (Kramnik's bathroom)
Don't start that again ................

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