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    10 Oct '06 10:45
    Well, this is a game I once played in a small local tournament years ago. It's something I remember up to now because I managed to beat someone better than me, because I thought he underestimated me. The opening was the queen's pawn, and I had the black pieces. It went like this:

    1. d4 d5
    2. c4 e6
    3. Nc3 Nf6
    4. Bg5 Nd7

    OK... Now I'm going to try to work out this so-called FEN for the first time. Here goes...



    OK... I hope I get it correct. Now the question: If you're white what's your move, and what are your reason(s) for such move? Don't cheat; don't search from database or consult computer analysis. It is interesting.
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    Yippee!!... I just made a breakthrough!!.... That was my first ever position posted on RHP!... I am so happy!
  3. Standard memberonyx2006
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    10 Oct '06 10:49
    e3, just to continue with developing, prepares bxc4, & frees the queen.
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    10 Oct '06 10:51
    Let others try first... and I'll tell you the funny story about this position later. It is very interesting. I promise!
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    10 Oct '06 10:55
    I would play 5.Nf3. I'm pretty sure that f3 is the right place of that knight but I don't about White's white-squared bishop yet - that may end up d3, e2 or even g2. White's short term plan is simply to get his pieces developed and castle kingside.
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    10 Oct '06 10:59
    doesnt cxd5 win a pawn? or does that ruin development or something?
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    10 Oct '06 10:59
    It is a strange reality that people in general hardly ever considered winning materials in the opening, huh?... Well, that is the funny thing about this position. My opponent had a sharp eye. From the very first move, he looked hard for means and opportunity to win materials...
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    10 Oct '06 11:00
    id move the queen out of their..get her situated in a devious spot
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    10 Oct '06 11:01
    There's a nasty trap there - 5.cxd5 exd5 6.Nxd5 Nxd5! 7.Bxd8 Bb4+ and White has to block the check with his queen - 8.Qd2 Bxd2+ 9.Kxd2 Kxd8
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    10 Oct '06 11:04
    Originally posted by Fat Lady
    There's a nasty trap there - 5.cxd5 exd5 6.Nxd5 Nxd5! 7.Bxd8 Bb4+ and White has to block the check with his queen - 8.Qd2 Bxd2+ 9.Kxd2 Kxd8
    Yes, that is the point of the position!... It was so funny. I didn't believe it when that move was played. I had actually read that trap just the night before the actual game. It was invented some 100 years ago by Tarrasch I think.
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    10 Oct '06 11:05
    So to answer your question, mazziewaq, yes, cxd5 does win material. But it's black who gets that material!
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    10 Oct '06 11:061 edit
    Originally posted by mazziewag
    doesnt cxd5 win a pawn? or does that ruin development or something?
    cxd5 is no good because of exd5 Nxd5 Nxd5 Bxd8 Bb4+ Qd2 Bxd2 Kxd2 Kxd8 and black is up a piece.Someone beat me to it 🙁
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    10 Oct '06 11:06
    fats lady why dont u wanna play me
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    10 Oct '06 11:08
    Originally posted by ckoh1965
    Yes, that is the point of the position!... It was so funny. I didn't believe it when that move was played. I had actually read that trap just the night before the actual game. It was invented some 100 years ago by Tarrasch I think.
    I thought Daniel Harrwitz, a contemporary of Adolf Anderssen, played it first.
  15. Standard memberGatecrasher
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    10 Oct '06 11:09
    The fat lady sings.
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