Go back
When to take a draw

When to take a draw

Only Chess

m

Joined
29 Aug 05
Moves
18315
Clock
03 Sep 05
Vote Up
Vote Down

Hi all,

Is there a point that it becomes bad form not to accept a draw.

Thanks

M
me, not you

CaNaDa

Joined
25 Nov 04
Moves
46658
Clock
03 Sep 05
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by meyekal
Hi all,

Is there a point that it becomes bad form not to accept a draw.

Thanks
Only when it is technically a draw due to insufficient pieces, threefold repetition, the 50 move rule..
There is also the perpetually check issue, but.. technically, thats an opinion there.. if you feel it really will be perpetually check, you probably should draw, but.. if you don't, once you hit the 50 move rule, it will be a draw anyways.
Insufficient pieces - ie.. King+knight v King, or King+bishop v King, or King+Knight+Knight v King

side note.. what about K+Kn+B or K+Kn+Kn+b? Never had an ending like that.

i

Joined
30 Oct 04
Moves
7813
Clock
03 Sep 05
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by meyekal
Hi all,

Is there a point that it becomes bad form not to accept a draw.

Thanks
When to take a draw:
My view may be summed up in these:
1) When there isn't sufficient material for either of the sides to win, or the advantage of the superior side is minimal (i.e. R vs. B /there are exceptions to this however some positions with that material are won/)
2) When the side that has the advantage cannot improve it's position (the so-called "fortress" positions). Positional draw.
3) The three-fold and as a particular case the perpetual check situation.
4) Theoretical draw positions. This include King and 2 Knights vs King endgames, Bishop supporting a- or h- file with colour opposing that of the promotion square, and so on.
And the optional rule of the thumb:
5) When the balance is so uncertain that any attempt to play for win may result in disaster (losing the game)

S

Coventry

Joined
25 Nov 04
Moves
3679
Clock
03 Sep 05
Vote Up
Vote Down

There isn't much more to add to what's already been said above, except that in some games, you might find that it just "fizzles out" into what looks like a draw, even when there is still sufficient mating material on both sides. I will often accept a draw in such a position if it's offered.

a
Enola Straight

mouse mouse mouse

Joined
16 Jan 05
Moves
12804
Clock
03 Sep 05
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by MIODude
Only when it is technically a draw due to insufficient pieces, threefold repetition, the 50 move rule..
There is also the perpetually check issue, but.. technically, thats an opinion there.. if you feel it really will be perpetually check, you probably should draw, but.. if you don't, once you hit the 50 move rule, it will be a draw anyways.
Insufficient ...[text shortened]... ght+Knight v King

side note.. what about K+Kn+B or K+Kn+Kn+b? Never had an ending like that.
N and B can mate, as can B and B. But N and N can't.

B
Non-Subscriber

RHP IQ

Joined
17 Mar 05
Moves
1345
Clock
03 Sep 05
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by ark13
But N and N can't.
Oh, really?

NS
blunderer of pawns

Rhode (not an)Island

Joined
17 Apr 04
Moves
24785
Clock
03 Sep 05
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by Bowmann
Oh, really?
I'm sure he means that it can't be forced.

M

Joined
30 May 05
Moves
2444
Clock
03 Sep 05
1 edit
Vote Up
Vote Down

Cookies help us deliver our Services. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Learn More.