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  1. 17 Mar '07 01:32
  2. 17 Mar '07 01:35 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by RahimK
    [fen]r4r2/p1p3Qp/4kp2/2pp1N1q/5P2/7P/PPP3P1/5RK1 w - - 0 1[/fen]
    1.Qe7+! Kxf5 2.g4+
  3. 17 Mar '07 06:26
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    1.Qe7+! Kxf5 2.g4+
    Lots of good moves here, eh?

    Q+R+K vs 2 R+K for your line.

    Anyone else?
  4. 17 Mar '07 06:59 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    1.Qe7+! Kxf5 2.g4+
    1. QxR! threatens Qxa8 and Ng7+(fork):

    if 1... RxQ 2. Ng7+ and 3. NxQ white is up a full Knight.
    if 1... KxN (or QxN) 2. QxR(a8) and white is up a full Rook.
  5. Standard member Dutch Defense
    Stealer of Souls
    17 Mar '07 15:34
    Originally posted by BLReid
    1. QxR! threatens Qxa8 and Ng7+(fork):

    if 1... RxQ 2. Ng7+ and 3. NxQ white is up a full Knight.
    if 1... KxN (or QxN) 2. QxR(a8) and white is up a full Rook.
    1.Qe7+ Kxf5 2.g4+ forking the black king and queen is much better because white will be up in exchange Queen vs. Rook.
  6. 17 Mar '07 17:58
    Originally posted by Dutch Defense
    1.Qe7+ Kxf5 2.g4+ forking the black king and queen is much better because white will be up in exchange Queen vs. Rook.
    yeah...
    queen vs. rook is better than being up only a full knight...
    although, it should be won either way...
  7. 17 Mar '07 18:01 / 1 edit
    Rd8+ Kxf5 g4+

    is better because Qxg4+ Qxg4 is mate...

    whereas, Qe7+ kxf5 g4+ Qxg4 hxg4+ Kxg4 losses 2pawns...

    Rd8+ accomplishes the same as Qe7+, but doesn't drop the pawns.


    Edit:- thats wrong...missed Kxf4
  8. Standard member DeepThought
    Losing the Thread
    17 Mar '07 18:09 / 1 edit
    1. Re1+ also wins the exchange of queen for rook: 1. ... Kxf5 2. g4+ (same idea) Kxf4 3. Qxc7+ (not gxh5? 4. Rg8! winning back the queen rook exchange) Kg5 5. gxh5.

    Edit: Shindoki got there first, I assume this is what he means by Rd8+
  9. 17 Mar '07 20:50
    Originally posted by RahimK
    [fen]r4r2/p1p3Qp/4kp2/2pp1N1q/5P2/7P/PPP3P1/5RK1 w - - 0 1[/fen]
    1.Qxc7!

    Grabbing the pawn and keeping the attack alive. Lots of mate threats here fellows!

    1...Kxf5 2.g4+

    2.Ng7+ mate or winning the queen.

    Knight moves and then 3.f5 is mate.
  10. Standard member DeepThought
    Losing the Thread
    17 Mar '07 22:48 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by RahimK
    1.Qxc7!

    Grabbing the pawn and keeping the attack alive. Lots of mate threats here fellows!

    1...Kxf5 2.g4+

    2.Ng7+ mate or winning the queen.

    Knight moves and then 3.f5 is mate.
    How is white going to play Nf5-g7+ after white's played Kxf5?
  11. 17 Mar '07 22:57
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    How is white going to play Nf5-g7+ after white's played Kxf5?
    Will Black play Kxf5 after Qxc7?

    After Qxc7

    If Kxf5 then g4+

    something else then there is Ng7+, knight move and f5 mate etc...