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Originally posted by mrjonesvich321
oh psh, like anyone here could say something both players don't already know
You're probably right, but the "don't comment on a game in progress" rule is one of the few hard-and-fast rules of the site, and I'd like to keep it working.

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Originally posted by mrjonesvich321
oh psh, like anyone here could say something both players don't already know
that's like saying oh psh i'm only stealing 2 dollars, the thing is, you're still stealing.

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Originally posted by range blasts
that's like saying oh psh i'm only stealing 2 dollars, the thing is, you're still stealing.
nope, it's not the same thing. if you steal 2 dollars, you will change something. but when a 1600+ player makes a very general comment about a game of that calibre, it won't change anything.

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Originally posted by diskamyl
nope, it's not the same thing. if you steal 2 dollars, you will change something. but when a 1600+ player makes a very general comment about a game of that calibre, it won't change anything.
People make mistakes.

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Originally posted by curseknight
People make mistakes.
indeed

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Originally posted by curseknight
People make mistakes.
engines don't

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Originally posted by Thomaster
engines don't
Its myth. Also engines make mistakes.

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It depends on your computer, I think.

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Originally posted by Thomaster
engines don't
You are saying both are engines?

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Originally posted by Thomaster
It depends on your computer, I think.
Practice shows that even the best engine can lose. I would suggest to check out databases with games played by engines.

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Originally posted by Thomaster
engines don't
[Event "ICC 3 1"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2005.06.08"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Beast"]
[Black "Smallville"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "3709"]
[BlackElo "3348"]
[ICCResult "White checkmated"]
[Opening "Dunst (Sleipner, Heinrichsen) opening"]
[ECO "A00"]
[NIC "VO.15"]
[Time "18:49:48"]
[TimeControl "180+1"]

1. Nc3 g6 2. e4 Bg7 3. Bc4 e6 4. Nf3 Ne7 5. O-O d6 6. d4 O-O 7. Bg5 h6 8.
Be3 b6 9. Qd2 Kh7 10. d5 e5 11. Ne1 f5 12. f3 f4 13. Bf2 g5 14. Nd3 h5 15.
Rae1 Ng6 16. Re2 Bh6 17. Ne1 g4 18. Qd3 a6 19. a4 Nd7 20. Kh1 Nf6 21. b4
Rf7 22. Rg1 g3 23. hxg3 fxg3 24. Bxg3 h4 25. Bxh4 Nxh4 26. g3 Ng6 27. Rh2
Kg7 28. Kg2 Rf8 29. Nd1 Rh8 30. Rgh1 Bg5 31. Rxh8 Nxh8 32. Nf2 Ng6 33. c3
Qe8 34. b5 a5 35. Nc2 Ne7 36. Nh3 Bxh3+ 37. Rxh3 Qg6 38. Kf2 Rh8 39. Rxh8
Kxh8 40. Ba2 Nd7 41. Ne1 Nc5 42. Qc2 Qh6 43. Ng2 Ng6 44. Bc4 Qh2 45. Bf1
Kg7 46. Qa2 Nf8 47. Bc4 Nh7 48. Kf1 Qh1+ 49. Kf2 Qc1 50. Be2 Nf6 51. Qc4
Bd2 52. g4 Qxc3 53. Qxc3 Bxc3 54. Bd1 Bd2 55. Nh4 Ng8 56. Ke2 Bg5 57. Nf5+
Kf7 58. Bc2 Ne7 59. Ng3 Nd7 60. Kd3 Ng6 61. Nf5 Kf6 62. Kc3 Nh4 63. Nxh4
Bxh4 64. Kd2 Kg5 65. Bd1 Kf4 66. Ke2 Nf6 67. Kf1 Nh7 68. Kg2 Be1 69. Kf1
Bg3 70. Be2 Ng5 71. Kg1 Nxf3+ 72. Kg2 Ne1+ 73. Kf1 Nc2 74. Kg2 Ne3+ 75. Kh3
Be1 76. g5 Kxg5 77. Kh2 Kf4 78. Bd3 Ng4+ 79. Kg2 Nf2 80. Bc2 Nxe4 81. Bb3
Nc5 82. Kf1 Nxb3 83. Kxe1 Nc5 84. Ke2 Nxa4 85. Ke1 Nc5 86. Kf2 Ke4 87. Kg2
Kxd5 88. Kg3 Kc4 89. Kg4 Kxb5 90. Kg3 a4 91. Kf3 a3 92. Ke3 a2 93. Kf2 a1=N
94. Ke3 Kc6 95. Kf3 Nab3 96. Kg4 Nd4 97. Kg5 Nde6+ 98. Kf5 Kd7 99. Kg4 b5
100. Kf3 b4 101. Kg3 b3 102. Kf3 b2 103. Kg4 b1=N 104. Kf5 Na3 105. Kg4 Nb7
106. Kf5 Nf8 107. Ke4 Nd8 108. Kd3 Nb5 109. Kc4 Na7 110. Kd3 Nc8 111. Ke4
Ke6 112. Ke3 d5 113. Kd2 c5 114. Kd1 e4 115. Kc2 d4 116. Kb2 Kd5 117. Kc1
c4 118. Kd2 e3+ 119. Ke1 Ke4 120. Kf1 d3 121. Ke1 c3 122. Kd1 c2+ 123. Kc1
e2 124. Kd2 Kd4 125. Ke1 c1=N 126. Kd2 Nb3+ 127. Ke1 Kc3 128. Kf2 Nc5 129.
Ke1 Nce6 130. Kf2 Nc7 131. Kf3 e1=N+ 132. Kf2 Nc2 133. Kf1 Ne8 134. Kg2
Nfe6 135. Kf2 Nf6 136. Kf3 Nd6 137. Kg3 Nc6 138. Kg2 N2d4 139. Kh3 N4f5
140. Kg2 Nfe7 141. Kf2 Ng6 142. Ke1 Kc2 143. Kf2 d2 144. Kg2 d1=N 145. Kf1
Nc3 146. Kf2 Ncd5 147. Kg2 Nce5 148. Kg1 Nde4 149. Kg2 Nd4 150. Kg1 Ngf4
151. Kh1 Nfg4 152. Kg1 Nde3 153. Kh1 Ndf5 154. Kg1 Nf3+ 155. Kh1 Nfg3#
{White checkmated} 0-1

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Originally posted by Thomaster
engines don't
[Event "Kasparov - X3D Fritz match"]
[Site "New York City, USA"]
[Date "2003.11.13"]
[Round "2"]
[White "X3D_Fritz(C)"]
[Black "Kasparov(GM)"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Opening "Ruy Lopez: Berlin defense"]
[ECO "C65"]
[NIC "RL.07"]
[Time "12:41:00"]
[TimeControl "7200+0"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. d3 d6 5. c3 g6 6. O-O Bg7 7. Nbd2 O-O 8.
Re1 Re8 9. d4 Bd7 10. d5 Ne7 11. Bxd7 Nxd7 12. a4 h6 13. a5 a6 14. b4 f5
15. c4 Nf6 16. Bb2 Qd7 17. Rb1 g5 18. exf5 Qxf5 19. Nf1 Qh7 20. N3d2 Nf5
21. Ne4 Nxe4 22. Rxe4 h5 23. Qd3 Rf8 24. Rbe1 Rf7 25. R1e2 g4 26. Qb3 Raf8
27. c5 Qg6 28. cxd6 cxd6 29. b5 axb5 30. Qxb5 Bh6 31. Qb6 Kh7 32. Qb4 Rg7
33. Rxe5 dxe5 34. Qxf8 Nd4 35. Bxd4 exd4 36. Re8 Rg8 37. Qe7+ Rg7 38. Qd8
Rg8 39. Qd7+
{White wins} 1-0

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Originally posted by wormwood
Same game, chessgames link:

Crafty (Beast) - Nakamura 0-1
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1480850

One of the kibitzers noted that he only used 2 min. 54 seconds for the entire game.

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h6 - g6 - Bg7 - e6 - d6 - b6 - Bb7 - a6 (h3 - g3 - Bg2 - e3 - d3 - b3 - Bb2 - a3) setup is considered as one of the best weapons against engines.

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Originally posted by Yuga
Same game, chessgames link:

Crafty (Beast) - Nakamura 0-1
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1480850

One of the kibitzers noted that he only used 2 min. 54 seconds for the entire game.
Ah! Gotta love the knight underpromotions!