Why f6 is not the answer to Ne5

Why f6 is not the answer to Ne5

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From a Standard 20 0 FICS game

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Originally posted by Eladar
From a Standard 20 0 FICS game

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1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 e6 3. e3 Nf6 4. Bd3 c5 5. b3 Nc6 6. O-O Nb4 7. Be2 Ne4 8.a3 Nc6 9. Nbd2 Nc3 10. Qe1 Nxe2+ 11. Qxe2 a6 12. Bb2 Bd7 13. c4 Na5 14. Ne5 f6 15. Qh5+ Ke7 16. Ng6+ Kd6 17. Nxh8 Be8 18. Qg4 Bd7 19. Nf7+ Kc6 20.Nxd8+
{EmanDesunu resigns} 1-0

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Well done. Moving the f pawn early in the game is something you don't want to do if you really don't know what yer doing. Nasty checks, mates, forks, pins, even promotions of second queen can arise.

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Originally posted by ivan2908
Well done. Moving the f pawn early in the game is something you don't want to do if you really don't know what yer doing. Nasty checks, mates, forks, pins, even promotions of second queen can arise.
1.d4 f5

moving the pawn early on often leads to a win...but to the player of this thread...nice win!

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Originally posted by c guy1
1.d4 f5

moving the pawn early on often leads to a win...but to the player of this thread...nice win!
In the opening, black playing f5 is usually a much better move than f6 simply because black's pawn on f5 blocks the white queen on h5 from menacing the pawn on e5. That's why the King's gambit (I know that's with white, but it's the same concept) and the Latvian are risky, but solid moves, whereas the Dianamo (sp?) defense (1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 f6) is plain bad.

When the white queen hits h5 against a pawn on f5, black can play g6 and the queen has nothing productive to do and must retreat. With the pawn on f6, black can clear it out with Nxe5 fxe5 and then the white queen has the e5 pawn as a juicy and destructive target from h5.

For another example of the dangers of playing f6 (in this case it was white playing f3, but because of a silly lost tempo white was, in essence, playing black), see Game 5836462

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Originally posted by c guy1
1.d4 f5

moving the pawn early on often leads to a win...but to the player of this thread...nice win!
If you play f6 early on, then you aren't going to get a Ne5. After Ne5, f6 isn't very good because now g6 gets met with Ng6.

I never said f6 in itself is a bad idea.