Originally posted by gaychessplayerWhat does he say about the Morra?
A really neat book just came out by GM Nigel Davies called "Gambiteer I". The book recommends playing gambits against all of the major Black defenses to 1 e4. Against the Sicilian he recommends the Wing Gambit.
I've tried the wing gambit & like many people, think the MG is a much more potent weapon against 1...c5.
Originally posted by SquelchbelchI think Davies recommends the Wing Gambit as opposed to the Smith-Morra Gambit because the Winger is more likely to be unfamiliar to the opponent and because White can transpose into a 2 c3 Sicilian against the SM if he wants. White really can't avoid the Winger.
What does he say about the Morra?
I've tried the wing gambit & like many people, think the MG is a much more potent weapon against 1...c5.
i LOVE the wing gambit. before that, i tried the advance & grand prix attack variations and hated them and only started winning (at about the 1550 level) when i switched to the wing gambit.
i'd say the biggest advantage to it is precisely that there is so little theory on it, and sicilian players DO so like playing bookishly. the very first game i played, my opponent resigned after 2. b4!
i've chased 1800+ players all around the board after denying them their castle with this variation. if you, like me, are a purely tactical player and have no clues about position, the wing gambit is the funnest line you can play against the sicilian.
the "theory" is really easy to learn as the wing gambit book has only about 24 pages of SKIMPY theory. you have to know the "trap" variation in the main line though as a queen check can grab your rook.
with a little bit of analysis of games, both yours & any others you can find, the wing gambit is a great line that will let you take sicilians out of their comfort zone very quickly.
it's very easy for you to be much better prepared than your opponents with this line and it's a good line for gambiteers.
i'm happy with it. it has earned me more rating points than lost.
B20 Sicilian Wing Gambit 1.e4 c5 2.b4!?
Those of you who claime that the SWG is bad, please post the extended refutation. 3...d5 alone does not end the discussion.
1.e4 c5
2.b4 3.cxb4
3.a3 d5
4.exd5 Qxd5
5.Nf3 e5
and now there are three major lines to refute:
A) 6.axb4
B) 6.Bb2
C) 6.c4
Regards, Paul
Originally posted by pokernautI've never had any problems against wing gambit, and I have no idea of the theory. I'd guess sicilian players are generally pleased to see it, just like any anti-sicilian. it means your opponent is so afraid of your sicilian that he's willing to try anything else. when you're black, that's an instant mental upper hand.
i LOVE the wing gambit. before that, i tried the advance & grand prix attack variations and hated them and only started winning (at about the 1550 level) when i switched to the wing gambit.
i'd say the biggest advantage to it is precisely that there is so little theory on it, and sicilian players DO so like playing bookishly. the very first game i playe e for gambiteers.
i'm happy with it. it has earned me more rating points than lost.
I have much more problems against 2.c3 and 2.Nc3.
smith morra isn't that tough if black knows what he is doing and the wing gambit is terrible black can be a average player and play well against it IMHO. As a black sicilian player I hate closed lines like stated above and I don't mind Nc3. I play g6 in case of the grand prix. I'd say that the grand prix is your best bet or the alapin variation.
Originally posted by kmac27That sounds like there should be an obvious refutation of the SWG.
smith morra isn't that tough if black knows what he is doing and the wing gambit is terrible black can be a average player and play well against it IMHO. As a black sicilian player I hate closed lines like stated above and I don't mind Nc3. I play g6 in case of the grand prix. I'd say that the grand prix is your best bet or the alapin variation.
Please post it
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[Date "2008.12.21"]
[EndDate "2008.12.26"]
[White "pulern"]
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1. e4 c5 2. b4 cxb4 3. a3 d5
4. exd5 Qd8xd5 5. Ng1f3 e5
6. axb4 Bf8xb4 7. c3 Bb4c5
8. d4 exd4 9. cxd4 Bc5b4
10. Bc1d2 Bb4xd2 11. Nb1xd2 Ng8e7
12. Bf1c4 Qd5d6 13. O-O O-O
14. Nd2e4 Qd6f4 15. Nf3g5 b5
16. g3 Qf4c7 17. Qd1h5 h6
18. Bc4xf7 Kg8h8 19. Ra1c1 Qc7d8
20. Bf7e6 Bc8b7 21. Ne4c5 Bb7d5
22. Ng5f7 Rf8xf7 23. Qh5xf7 Nb8c6
24. Be6xd5 Qd8xd5 25. Nc5e6 Ra8g8
26. Rc1c5 Qd5e4 27. Rc5xb5 Ne7d5
28. Ne6g5 1-0
Originally posted by pulern
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[GameId "5785 ...[text shortened]... Nc5e6 Ra8g8
26. Rc1c5 Qd5e4 27. Rc5xb5 Ne7d5
28. Ne6g5 1-0