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Everybody posts asking about the best opening. What's the worst opening. I'm not talking about the Fools Mate or Andersons. Of the major openings and defenses, which one would you most like to face?
Which one would you least like to play.

For me, it's probably the Pirc.

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Don't know if there's a name for it, but I see it a lot in the French Advance: 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 c5 4. Nf3?

For some reason this seems to be a common response at my level and below. After 4...cxd5 5. Nxd5, black has essentially accomplished his goal of erradicating the pawn off the d square and making the e5 pawn very weak. As black, I'm happy to play against this 🙂

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Originally posted by Red Night
Everybody posts asking about the best opening. What's the worst opening. I'm not talking about the Fools Mate or Andersons. Of the major openings and defenses, which one would you most like to face?
Which one would you least like to play.

For me, it's probably the Pirc.
As white?

When anyone accepts the Queen's Gambit, I am happy.

When anyone plays the French, I am sad.

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Any opening where they try to adavnce the wings without any central development....

i.e 1.h4/a4

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Originally posted by Red Night
Of the major openings and defenses, which one would you most like to face?
Which one would you least like to play.
I absolutely abhor this variation of the Scoth, the Mieses I think it's called:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nxc6 bxc6 6. e5 Qe7 7.Qe2 Nd5 8. c4 Ba6

for both sides. The game usually becomes a big, weird mess. The Open Spanish I'm not a fan of either, although I think it's a slightly dodgy choice for black in correspondence chess.

The positions I like the most are probably the Closed Spanish and the Queen's Gambit Declined as white. I defend these as black too, though.

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Originally posted by TommyC
I absolutely abhor this variation of the Scoth, the Mieses I think it's called:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nxc6 bxc6 6. e5 Qe7 7.Qe2 Nd5 8. c4 Ba6

for both sides. The game usually becomes a big, weird mess. The Open Spanish I'm not a fan of either, although I think it's a slightly dodgy choice for black in correspondence chess.

The ...[text shortened]... losed Spanish and the Queen's Gambit Declined as white. I defend these as black too, though.
The worst SERIOUS opening, in my opinion, is probably the pirc/modern, simply because they hand over the center to white. (I know, I know it's a hypermodern, big deal) Obviously the worst openings are 1.h4 1.a4 etc.

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I think its bad for white to play a KG accepted where white tries to retake the pawn, or atleast at my level it has been a bad idea

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
The worst SERIOUS opening, in my opinion, is probably the pirc/modern, simply because they hand over the center to white. (I know, I know it's a hypermodern, big deal) Obviously the worst openings are 1.h4 1.a4 etc.
Er, I'm not sure if you're implying the opening I posted wasn't 'SERIOUS' - but alas, it is. Kasparov played it his World Championship matches against both Anand and Karpov, for instance.

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Originally posted by EnigmaticCam
Don't know if there's a name for it, but I see it a lot in the French Advance: 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 c5 4. Nf3?

For some reason this seems to be a common response at my level and below. After 4...cxd5 5. Nxd5, black has essentially accomplished his goal of erradicating the pawn off the d square and making the e5 pawn very weak. As black, I'm happy to play against this 🙂
I've also seen 4. dxc? a few times.

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Originally posted by c guy1
I think its bad for white to play a KG accepted where white tries to retake the pawn, or atleast at my level it has been a bad idea
No, in fact, you are stupid.

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Originally posted by TommyC
Er, I'm not sure if you're implying the opening I posted wasn't 'SERIOUS' - but alas, it is. Kasparov played it his World Championship matches against both Anand and Karpov, for instance.
That's nice, name one other occurance of it at any major tournament.

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
That's nice, name one other occurance of it at any major tournament.
No. Search the databases yourself, you'll find them.

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
That's nice, name one other occurance of it at any major tournament.
I agree with Tommy C, it's a major opening. I was trying to rule out openings like a4 and h4, a3, h3, c3 and f3.

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Originally posted by TommyC
No. Search the databases yourself, you'll find them.
Ah, oops, sorry Tommy. I was talking about a4/h4 openings. :/ I thought you had posted those. My fault, sorry.

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
Ah, oops, sorry Tommy. I was talking about a4/h4 openings. :/ I thought you had posted those. My fault, sorry.
Ah, ok!! No worries. That makes much more sense!

Back to the thread subject, I don't really like the classical KID or the Yugoslav Dragon. This is not because the positions make me wince or anything, but because the thematic middle-game plans are so well known I think who wins just comes down to either (a) theoretical knowledge, or (b) chance.

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