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I know the orangutan is b4. The ware opening/crab variation is a4 and then h4. But I was sure that I remembered a gorilla opening too. Or maybe it was just something me and my friends made up when we were young. Yep that's it. Thanx.

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The grob

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Originally posted by hahahaaaa
I believe I read somewhere that that is called the "gorilla opening".
I just ran across a site that calls it the Crab.

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Originally posted by Northern Lad
I don't know why people are putting question marks against 4.Nf3 and 4.dxc5 in the Advanced French. They are both perfectly respecable moves, even if they probably cause black fewer problems objectively than the more usual 4.c3.
I play the exchange French as white so don't know much about the advance, but for a while in blitz I tried playing the advance in the Nimzoswitch (?) style - ie not recapturing after ...cxd4 with the knight and omitting c3, playing instead Qg4, Nf3, a3, Bd3 etc. The trouble I've found is that no-one loses as I believe Nimzo's opponents did; everyone now knows that black should respond dynamically with activity on the queenside. I think this is an interesting example of how chess ideas have circulated to the extent that relatively poor players can now play certain positions better than historically much stronger players.

Or maybe I just suck at doing a Nimzo!

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Originally posted by Shinidoki
Any opening where they try to adavnce the wings without any central development....

i.e 1.h4/a4
Hey, don't be messin with the Polish Opening

http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/viewhistory.php?gameid=1933376

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Originally posted by uzless
Hey, don't be messin with the Polish Opening

http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/viewhistory.php?gameid=1933376
I think the Polish is b4.

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I'm surprised nobody mentioned the center counter. As an e4 player, I'd rather play against that trash than any other defense.
Conversely, the french is most hated and I will often play d4 against known french players.

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The Latvian Gambit is the only refuted opening? It must be the worst opening.

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Originally posted by TommyC
I play the exchange French as white so don't know much about the advance, but for a while in blitz I tried playing the advance in the Nimzoswitch (?) style - ie not recapturing after ...cxd4 with the knight and omitting c3, playing instead Qg4, Nf3, a3, Bd3 etc. The trouble I've found is that no-one loses as I believe Nimzo's opponents did; everyone now knows ...[text shortened]... ons better than historically much stronger players.

Or maybe I just suck at doing a Nimzo!
Nimzowitsch's idea was that to control the important squares e5 and d4 against the French, it's not always necessary to occupy these squares with pawns. I think the idea is still valid, though it now appears that Qg4 doesn't go very well in the Advanced French. Lines with Nf3 and/or dxc5 are better. However, a similar idea in the Winawer French (1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 c5 5.Qg4!?) is still considered quite playable.

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Originally posted by hahahaaaa
I believe I read somewhere that that is called the "gorilla opening".
A00 Ware; Meadow Hay; Crab 1.a4
A00 Wing Gambit, Ware Opening 1.a4 b5
A00 Cologne Gambit, Ware Opening 1.a4 b6 2.d4 d5 2.Nc3 Nd7
A00 Ware Gambit 1.a4 e5 2.a5 d5 3.e3 f5 4.a6


A00 Kadas Opening 1.h4
A00 Despres Opening 1.h4
A00 Koola-Koola 1.h4 a5
A00 Wulumulu 1.h4 e5 2.d4

There you go.

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Originally posted by uzless
Hey, don't be messin with the Polish Opening

http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/viewhistory.php?gameid=1933376
A00 Polish; Orangutan; Sokolsky; Hunt 1.b4

Plus your opponent is rated in the 900's

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
A00 Polish; Orangutan; Sokolsky; Hunt 1.b4

Plus your opponent is rated in the 900's
his rating was due to a bunch of claimed victories when he was on vaccation...check out his history...was much higher.

I don't claim to be a master...be interested if anyone critiqued the game

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The Grob Attack (1.g4) has a bad reputation, but I play it sometimes, and it often confuses people. Once had a game go: 1.g4 Nf6 2.g5 d5 3.gxf6 Resigns.

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Originally posted by Red Night
...For me, it's probably the Pirc.
Fancy a game 😵

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Up until resently, my worst opening to face was the Kings Indian Defense. I still struggle (even though i used to play it!!) Perhaps i just need a little study in that direction (perhaps, pah!) 😛