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odoodsdudes

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i have had my a-- kicked, the experienced players eat you alive, they use only rooks and pawns to steal your pawns and then bring out a couple of other pieces, not necessarily the queen, for the kill. ? torture ?

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Define "Experienced". From the context, I assume you mean "1300 players who would probably be 900 OTB".

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A few comments on this game.

It's generally a bad idea to bring out your queen too early as your opponent can chase it around whilst developing pieces. You got away with it in this game because your opponent allowed you to exchange queens early on. In the opening you should be trying to develop your knights and bishop and castle before you start thinking about where your rooks and queen belong. You have to balance this with keeping control of the centre with your pawns.

Your wing pawn moves - a2-a4, a4-a5 and h2-h4 didn't really seem to have a point to them. Often these are better placed on a3 and h3 to prevent your opponents knights and bishops getting to a powerful square.

Your first real blunder was 23. Rd3. This is called an overworked piece. The rook is doing two jobs, defending the knight on c3 and the other knight on d4. Whenever you have an overworked piece your opponent is likely to have tactics which win material. This is exactly what happened here.

When you are material down, it is generally a good idea to try and keep as many pieces on the board as possible, but to swap pawns whenever you can. This is because you may get to a drawn ending (e.g. king and two knights vs king). If your opponent has any pawns left in the ending, he may well be able to promote it to a queen.

sh76
Civis Americanus Sum

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Out of curiosity...

why did you resign this game?

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FL

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Originally posted by sh76
Out of curiosity...

why did you resign this game?

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It's been well known for over two hundred years that the Ponziani Opening is a forced loss for White. That's why it's use is prohibited in international tournaments.

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One thing I'm trying to force myself to learn is to not just play a move because it's my turn. If I feel that way then I must be at a key point in my game and need to look harder for a plan.

But yes anything 1600 and over eats my lunch quick 1400 and 1500 eats my lunch, but not as fast.

odoodsdudes

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thank you very much, l will refer to and learn from your information

Badwater

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Originally posted by Fat Lady
It's been well known for over two hundred years that the Ponziani Opening is a forced loss for White. That's why it's use is prohibited in international tournaments.
Prohibited? How so?

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Originally posted by Badwater
Prohibited? How so?
They use whips and ball chains to enforce it.

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Originally posted by Palynka
They use whips and ball chains to enforce it.
For a 2nd offense I believe in some countries where they take their chess very seriously they cut off your left hand.

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On your third offense, they use sarcasm.

odoodsdudes

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hey dudes! how did this conversation get onto my forum or am i missing something ?

FL

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Originally posted by odoodsdudes
hey dudes! how did this conversation get onto my forum or am i missing something ?
You started it. You played the Ponziani Opening and then (quite rightly) resigned after you realised what you had done.

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Hikaru Nakamura-Julio Becerra-Rivero, U.S. Championship 2007
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.c3 f5 4.d4 fxe4 5.Nxe5 Nf6 6.Bb5 Bd6 7.Nc4 Be7 8.Ba4 d5 9.Ne5 O-O 10.Bxc6 bxc6 11.Nxc6 Qe8 12.Nxe7+ Qxe7 13.O-O Ng4 14.h3 e3 15.Bxe3 Nxe3 16.fxe3 Bxh3 17.Rf3 Bg4 18.Rxf8+ Rxf8 19.Qe1 Rf6 20.Nd2 Rg6 21.Qg3 Qe6 22.Qf4 Bh3 23.g3 h5 24.e4 Rg4 25.Qxc7 h4 26.Kh2 hxg3+ 27.Kxh3 Rxe4+ 28.Kg2 Re2+ 29.Kxg3 Qe3+ 30.Kh4 Qh6+ 31.Kg3 Qg5+ 32.Kh3 Rxd2 33.Qc8+ Kh7 0-1

This opening even got Nakamura in trouble.

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