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  1. 03 May '13 21:05 / 2 edits
    I had no idea this was a thing.

  2. Standard member SwissGambit
    Caninus Interruptus
    03 May '13 21:23 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by WanderingKing
    I had no idea this was a thing.

    [pgn][Event "Bern open"] [Site "Bern open"] [Date "1987.??.??"] [EventDate "?"] [Round "?"] [Result "1-0"] [White "Ervin Rosenblatt"] [Black "Reinhard"] [ECO "C44"] [WhiteElo "?"] [BlackElo "?"] [PlyCount "13"] 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Bc4 Bb4+ 5.c3 dxc3 6.bxc3 Be7 {What could possibly go wrong?} 7.Qd5 {Black loses a knight.} 1-0[/pgn]
    I don't play this opening, but I don't like the look of 4...Bb4+. Black gives up on maintaining the d4 pawn and the check will be stuffed with a gain of time.

    Edit: maybe it's not so bad - 6...Bc5 and if 7.Qd5 then Qe7.
  3. Standard member ChessPraxis
    Cowboy From Hell
    04 May '13 00:11
    Originally posted by WanderingKing
    I had no idea this was a thing.

    [pgn][Event "Bern open"] [Site "Bern open"] [Date "1987.??.??"] [EventDate "?"] [Round "?"] [Result "1-0"] [White "Ervin Rosenblatt"] [Black "Reinhard"] [ECO "C44"] [WhiteElo "?"] [BlackElo "?"] [PlyCount "13"] 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Bc4 Bb4+ 5.c3 dxc3 6.bxc3 Be7 {What could possibly go wrong?} 7.Qd5 {Black loses a knight.} 1-0[/pgn]
    6... Ba5


    6. 0-0 is an old line for white that leads to a Goring Gambit type game.

    Your line is very similar to a line known locally as the Art W. attack. 1.e4...e5 2. NF3...Nc6 3. d4...exd4 4. Bc4... Be6 5. c3... dxc3? 6. Qd5!
  4. 04 May '13 02:22 / 2 edits
    In that last line given by ChessP.
    Many players on here and OTB have resigned after 6.Qd5 Nh6 and 7.Bxh6



    Game 9109581 is just one example.

    However things are not that clear. White has to give the piece back.
    here are the next 4 moves from Game 8256662


  5. Standard member byedidia
    Mister Why
    04 May '13 02:33
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    [b]In that last line given by ChessP.
    Many players on here and OTB have resigned after 6.Qd5 Nh6 and 7.Bxh6

    [fen]r1bqk2r/ppppbppp/2n4B/3Q4/2B1P3/2p2N2/PP3PPP/RN2K2R b KQkq - 0 7[/fen]

    Game 9109581 is just one example.

    However things are not that clear. White has to give the piece back.
    here are the next 4 moves from Game 8256662[/ ...[text shortened]... happening now? In the game link I posted. Black mated White in 27 moves.} [/pgn]
    How about 8. Bg5 and exchange off the bishops.
  6. 04 May '13 02:46
    8.Bg5 cxb2 Looks OK.

  7. 04 May '13 11:32
    So it looks like SG is right, and it's the bishop check that leads to trouble in the original line. It's thanks to the check that white can take the c3 pawn without losing a tempo.