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Posers and Puzzles

Posers and Puzzles

  1. 01 May '05 05:56
    The vertices A and C of a triangle ABC lie on the circumference of a circle. The circle cuts the sides AB and CB at points X and Y respectively. IF AC=XC and Angle YXC = 40 degrees, find the size of Angle ABC.

    & (note these are 2 different questions)

    In a triangle ABC, Angle ABC = 112 degrees and AB = BC. D is a point on the side AB and E is a point on the side AC such that AE = ED = DB. Find the size of Angle BCD.
  2. 02 May '05 03:06
    Originally posted by phgao
    The vertices A and C of a triangle ABC lie on the circumference of a circle. The circle cuts the sides AB and CB at points X and Y respectively. IF AC=XC and Angle YXC = 40 degrees, find the size of Angle ABC.
    By my calculation, I get that ang(ABC) should be 45 degrees.
  3. 02 May '05 03:48 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by phgao
    In a triangle ABC, Angle ABC = 112 degrees and AB = BC. D is a point on the side AB and E is a point on the side AC such that AE = ED = DB. Find the size of Angle BCD.
    disregard
  4. 02 May '05 05:55 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by davegage
    By my calculation, I get that ang(ABC) should be 45 degrees.
    Can you provide proof? And what about the 2nd Q?
  5. 02 May '05 07:15 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by phgao
    Can you provide proof? And what about the 2nd Q?
    hmmm...actually, i think i made a mistake earlier. I think ABC should be 40 for the first problem.

    My proof of the first question (I think this is right):

    We are given that AC = XC. Therefore, it follows (law of sines, for example) that CAX = AXC. (Here my notation is that CAX refers to angle CAX)

    So let CAX = AXC = x.

    Also, let the radius of the circle be R.

    It follows from the law of sines that XC/[sin(x)] = 2R = XC/[sin(XYC)].

    It also follows from law of sines that AY/[sin(x+40)] = 2R = AY/[sin(ACY)].

    We conclude from these two that:

    sin(x) = sin(XYC) and
    sin(x+40) = sin(ACY).

    This does not mean that x = XYC and x+40 = ACY. In fact, these cannot both hold because then ABC would be 0 which doesn't make sense.

    So the only solution I see that is in keeping with YXC = 40 is

    XYC = 180-x and ACY = x+40. (for x < 90).

    Then to find x, we just set the sum of angles within the circle to 360:

    XAC + ACY + XYC + YXA = 360
    -> x + (x+40) + (180-x) + (x+40) = 360
    -> x = 50

    Then it follows that ABC = 180 - XAC - ACY
    -> ABC = 180 - (X) - (X+40) = 180 - 50 - 90 = 40

    For the second problem, I was getting confused...I kept getting that the problem was not constrained, but I take it that it is, so I need to look at that problem again...
  6. 02 May '05 08:07 / 4 edits
    Originally posted by phgao
    In a triangle ABC, Angle ABC = 112 degrees and AB = BC. D is a point on the side AB and E is a point on the side AC such that AE = ED = DB. Find the size of Angle BCD.
    Okay, for the second problem, here is what I get, although I don't have a calculator handy, so I haven't simplified it to the numerical answer:

    We are given that ABC = 112, and AB = BC. We are also given that AE = ED = DB.

    From these, we know that BDC = (68 - BCD)

    So we invoke the Law of Sines:

    BC/[sin(68 - BCD)] = DB/[sin(BCD)]

    Also, AB/[sin(AEB = 129)] = AE/[sin(ABE = 17)].

    Then noting that DB = AE and AB = BC, we can simplify these two equations to solve for BCD. When I do that, I get:

    cot(BCD) = [(sin(129))/(sin(68)sin(17))] + cot(68)

    I don't have a calculator to see what number I get.

    Does this look right to you?
  7. 02 May '05 16:33
    Originally posted by davegage
    Okay, for the second problem, here is what I get, although I don't have a calculator handy, so I haven't simplified it to the numerical answer:

    We are given that ABC = 112, and AB = BC. We are also given that AE = ED = DB.

    From these, we know that BDC = (68 - BCD)

    So we invoke the Law of Sines:

    BC/[sin(68 - BCD)] = DB/[sin(BCD)]

    Also, AB/ ...[text shortened]... cot(68)

    I don't have a calculator to see what number I get.

    Does this look right to you?
    Now that I have my trusty calculator,

    I get that for Question 2, BCD = 17.