20 Jul 10
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungWithout wars no spaceprogram would be necessary. Without war, noone would set foot on the Moon.
See title. They had a space program in WWII.
Peenemünde wouldn't be as advanced to start any space program.
Perhaps the Germans would have nuclear power earlier, but without the nuclear bomb.
21 Jul 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungLike Fab says, rockets such as the V2 were developed as a war machine. Although they could have developed it as a civilian research tool, they didn't. It seems unlikely to me they would have developed anything unrelated to war. Our own space program was the beneficiary of war, captured V2's and V2 scientists. We got the best ones like Von Braun. Given enough time, ANY nation could have developed peaceful rockets but with the warlike attitudes in the early 20th century it is unlikely anyone doing so would have had their programs diverted to war efforts.
See title. They had a space program in WWII.
22 Jul 10
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The man on the moon effort probably wouldn't have a huge emphasis on a particular nation.
The whole space race thing was a pissing contest, especially post WWII. The only reason the U.S. put a man up there was because they didn't want the Soviets to do it first- wanted to hold on to a reputation that they were the capitalistic superheroes.
Jesus, goldeneye lasers, a tank on the moon and mutually assured destruction! Ridiculous.
22 Jul 10
Originally posted by ua41That's the thing - Germany was DEMANDING a pissing contest with the world to prove they were best - what if this were channelled into peaceful means of saying "my balls are bigger than yours" like creating a giant metal phallus and claiming the Moon!
The man on the moon effort probably wouldn't have a huge emphasis on a particular nation.
The whole space race thing was a pissing contest, especially post WWII. The only reason the U.S. put a man up there was because they didn't want the Soviets to do it first- wanted to hold on to a reputation that they were the capitalistic superheroes.
Jesus, goldeneye lasers, a tank on the moon and mutually assured destruction! Ridiculous.
22 Jul 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungHahaha 😀 So I guess the real puzzler here is how big would this phallic structure have to be in order to prove such a claim?
That's the thing - Germany was DEMANDING a pissing contest with the world to prove they were best - what if this were channelled into peaceful means of saying "my balls are bigger than yours" like creating a giant metal phallus and claiming the Moon!
03 Aug 10
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Originally posted by TheMaster37**** Silly Question Alert ****
That made me laugh :p
Problem is that that would probabely screw up the moon's orbit and have it crushing down on us 🙂
What would happen with Earth's orbit if if an unbreakable pillar anchored the moon to the earth?
Something like this:
O-o
which then rotated as a whole.
(if necessary assume earth's rotation is unchanged).
04 Aug 10
Originally posted by PalynkaI'm guessing we would all die.
**** Silly Question Alert ****
What would happen with Earth's orbit if if an unbreakable pillar anchored the moon to the earth?
Something like this:
O-o
which then rotated as a whole.
(if necessary assume earth's rotation is unchanged).
11 Aug 10
Originally posted by TheMaster37The moon is getting further from Earth at a rate of about an inch per year, 1 or 2 cm/ year. So it is unlikely it would come back to Earth. If anything, you would have to allow for that much stretch per year, like maybe a 50 cm in ten years. Otherwise the mechanism snaps in two. I don't think it would be able to stop the moon moving that much. Maybe you could turn that into some kind of energy generator🙂
That made me laugh :p
Problem is that that would probabely screw up the moon's orbit and have it crushing down on us 🙂
12 Aug 10
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Originally posted by sonhouseThe moon is getting further from Earth, right, at the moment.
The moon is getting further from Earth at a rate of about an inch per year, 1 or 2 cm/ year. So it is unlikely it would come back to Earth. If anything, you would have to allow for that much stretch per year, like maybe a 50 cm in ten years. Otherwise the mechanism snaps in two. I don't think it would be able to stop the moon moving that much. Maybe you could turn that into some kind of energy generator🙂
When Earth and Moon synchronize, then Moon will getting nearer again, ultimately crash on Earth's surface, in pieces. It will take several billion of years until that happens.
"Million of years?"
"No, *billion* of years."
"Phiew!"
12 Aug 10
Originally posted by FabianFnasWhen I gave a lecture in Japan, I was asked not to mention the possible re-collapse of the universe, because it might affect the stock market. However, I can re-assure anyone who is nervous about their investments that it is a bit early to sell: even if the universe does come to an end, it won't be for at least twenty billion years. By that time, maybe the GATT trade agreement will have come into effect.
The moon is getting further from Earth, right, at the moment.
When Earth and Moon synchronize, then Moon will getting nearer again, ultimately crash on Earth's surface, in pieces. It will take several billion of years until that happens.
"Million of years?"
"No, *billion* of years."
"Phiew!"
Stephen Hawking
http://www.hawking.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=62&Itemid=66
16 Aug 10
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Originally posted by FabianFnasThe moon and Earth are already in sync, one side always faces the Earth, well a bit of wobble, you can sometimes see a bit around the bend but mostly the same face always shows on Earth.
The moon is getting further from Earth, right, at the moment.
When Earth and Moon synchronize, then Moon will getting nearer again, ultimately crash on Earth's surface, in pieces. It will take several billion of years until that happens.
"Million of years?"
"No, *billion* of years."
"Phiew!"
It was a real surprise when the Russians photographed the backside of the moon way back when, 1960? 65, not sure. The resolution sucked but it was enough to show major differences in the surface back to front.
The sync will never change, the moon just recedes a cm per year or so. At that rate the sun will expand into the Earth/moon system way before we have to worry about anything the moon does.
Found a wiki, the probes were called Lunik's and the first one launched in 1959. The machine making the image is shown in this article, it is clear it is a form of fax machine.
Here is the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_3
16 Aug 10
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Originally posted by sonhouseThe Moon is in sync with the Earth. The Earth is *not* in sync with the Moon.
The moon and Earth are already in sync, one side always faces the Earth, well a bit of wobble, you can sometimes see a bit around the bend but mostly the same face always shows on Earth.
One day and night on moon is the same as one revolution around Earth, i.e. 28 days. When one day and night is the same as on revolution 'around' Moon (or our common point of gravity), i.e. 28 days, then we are in sync with the Moon. It's not the case now. Today one day and night only is 24 hours.