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Originally posted by psalcido80231
This is a drawn position, no matter how you look at it:

Look at it from the perspective of the previous posts in the thread, and you'll find you are mistaken.

Originally posted by ilywrin
Or more precisely 1.Qd5+ Ke2 (or else 2.Qh1 and 3.Qf1) 2.Qg2! Ke1 3.Kc2! Ke2 (3...f1Q?? 4.Qd2# ) 4.Qe4+ Kf1 5.Qh1+ Ke2 6.Qd1+ and 7. Qf1.

Wow, this must be a special situation. I got Pwnd.

Originally posted by psalcido80231
This is a drawn position, no matter how you look at it:

1. Qf5+ Kg2 2. Qg4+ Kh1

I would like to note, that no matter how you go about it, you will end up with the K at h1 and the Queen on the g file someplace. For instance:

1. Qd5+ Kd2 2. Qe4+ Kf1 3. Kc2 Kg2 4. Qe2 Kg1 5. Qg4+ Kh1

Even though the King is now closer, what can white do? He h ...[text shortened]... e the King in front of the pawn.

Because of this, this is a drawn position, plain and simple.

Qf5+ does end in a draw, but Qd5+ is a win for white. Your line is flawed. Instead of:

1. Qd5+ Ke2 2. Qe4+ Kf1 3. Kc2?

white should play 3. Qh1+!, with an eye towards immobilizing the pawn while white's king cuts off black's shuffling room. The continuation would be:

3. Qh1+! Ke2
4. Qg2 Ke3 - after 4. ... Ke1, we have 5. Kc2 Ke2 (promotion to anything other than a knight loses the game immediately, and after promotion to a knight it's a simple win for white)
5. Kc3 Ke2
6. Kd4 Ke1
7. Ke3 ... - forcing black's king away from the pawn and effectively ending the game.

Originally posted by PBE6
Qf5+ does end in a draw, but Qd5+ is a win for white. Your line is flawed. Instead of:

1. Qd5+ Ke2 2. Qe4+ Kf1 3. Kc2?

white should play 3. Qh1+!, with an eye towards immobilizing the pawn while white's king cuts off black's shuffling room. The continuation would be:

3. Qh1+! Ke2
4. Qg2 Ke3 - after 4. ... Ke1, we have 5. Kc2 Ke2 (promotion to anyth 4 Ke1
7. Ke3 ... - forcing black's king away from the pawn and effectively ending the game.

EDITED: Man, I'm just real stupid today

If the king goes to corner of the board and if the queen takes the pawn it is a stalemate. So the queen has to check the black king continuously as otherwise black pawn can become a queen. Therefore the given position is a dead draw.

The idea is equally applicable to 'c' pawn also.

kesavan7777
Name: R.Kesavan.

Originally posted by kesavan7777
If the king goes to corner of the board and if the queen takes the pawn it is a stalemate. So the queen has to check the black king continuously as otherwise black pawn can become a queen. Therefore the given position is a dead draw.

The idea is equally applicable to 'c' pawn also.

kesavan7777
Name: R.Kesavan.

Read the whole thread. There is a win, partly because the black king will never get to h1.