1. Standard memberPalynka
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    04 Mar '11 10:281 edit
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    complicated solution to a "simple" problem. Well done iamatiger!

    I found probability/statistics boring at Uni ... I wish I had paid more attention because its fascinating for me now.
    I think his answer was extremely elegant and simple. For these type of probability problems with sequential properties posing it in a recursive way is usually an excellent and compact way to go about it (and one I tend to forget myself so much kudos to iamatiger)
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    05 Mar '11 21:08
    Originally posted by iamatiger
    I did a google search for this kind of problem, f(n) turned out to be called the number of derangements in the world of probability, represented as !n

    The wikipedia page on that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derangement
    gives the weird equation:

    f(n) = round(n!/e)

    where round rounds to the nearest integer

    seeing as p(n) = f(n-1)/(f(n-1 ...[text shortened]... (n-1)!)

    A quick spreadsheet test shows this is a very good approximation for 5 days and over.
    The approximation can be simplified even more without losing accuracy:

    p(n) ~ (n-1)!/(n! + (n-1)!)

    p(n) ~ 1/((n! + (n-1)!)/(n-1)!)

    p(n) ~ 1/(n!/(n-1)! + 1)

    p(n) ~ 1/(n + 1)

    This is pretty good for 5 days (1.85% error) and gets very good for more than 5 days.
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