Posers and Puzzles

Posers and Puzzles

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    white to play and draw. I composed this puzzle years ago, but did some modifications (made it bit harder) today. i think and hope that there is only one solution, but if you find more please inform me.

    please dont post the solution right away. EDIT: And do not use Fritz!
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    01 Feb '07 10:27
    Originally posted by Jusuh
    EDIT: And do not use Fritz![/b]
    I don't have Fritz.
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    01 Feb '07 15:26
    Originally posted by GinoJ
    I don't have Fritz.
    good for you.
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    01 Feb '07 16:51
    Originally posted by Jusuh
    [fen]3q1b2/P7/2k5/p1p1p1p1/PpP1PpPR/NP3P2/4pK2/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]

    white to play and draw. I composed this puzzle years ago, but did some modifications (made it bit harder) today. i think and hope that there is only one solution, but if you find more please inform me.

    please dont post the solution right away. EDIT: And do not use Fritz!
    Here is my version of your position (White to draw again). (Perhaps with a few more improvements this idea may acquire the form it deserves):
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    01 Feb '07 17:071 edit
    Yes. thats nice too. first I thought there are two solutions, but there aren't.

    EDIT: in fact, did you consider that white can promote a bishop too?
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    01 Feb '07 23:161 edit
    Doh! I missed that...I will think some more on different starting position...
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    02 Feb '07 00:001 edit
    Originally posted by ilywrin
    Here is my version of your position (White to draw again). (Perhaps with a few more improvements this idea may acquire the form it deserves):
    [fen]3b4/3qP3/6k1/p1p1p1p1/PpP1PpPR/1P2NP2/3pK3/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]
    I'm not crazy about the heavy-handed wR sacrificing in these versions. Perhaps something a bit more minimal might make a good impression:


    White draws
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    02 Feb '07 02:53
    Originally posted by GinoJ
    I don't have Fritz.
    what's friz?
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    02 Feb '07 07:41
    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    I'm not crazy about the heavy-handed wR sacrificing in these versions. Perhaps something a bit more minimal might make a good impression:

    [fen]5k2/8/2pNp1p1/1pP1PpPp/1P3P2/8/1K6/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]
    White draws
    That's actually pretty good :-). If some more foreplay is added, it'll make a really hard study. I'll think about it but that is definitely a shot in the right direction.
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    02 Feb '07 08:522 edits
    A bit more in that direction (though I have not really checked it, but it seems correct to me):
    White to draw:
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    involving promotion.
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    02 Feb '07 14:31
    Originally posted by Jusuh
    [fen]3bn3/2k2Pr1/1p1p1p2/pPpP1Pp1/2PpK1P1/3P3P/8/8 w - - 0 1 [/fen]

    involving promotion.
    Why do you need the pawn at h3? This is interesting, I will consider it. I was thinking of adding black bishop on "f7" in my variation of BigDogg's position, but alas Black wins, there. Your idea of underpromotion is rather good.
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    02 Feb '07 14:37
    Originally posted by ilywrin
    Why do you need the pawn at h3? This is interesting, I will consider it. I was thinking of adding black bishop on "f7" in my variation of BigDogg's position, but alas Black wins, there. Your idea of underpromotion is rather good.
    without the h3-pawn, white can promote to a queen on f8, and then move his queen to h8 and then h1 and stop the a-pawn. dont know if thats still winning for black, but its definitely more complicated.
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    03 Feb '07 07:41
    Originally posted by Jusuh
    [fen]3bn3/2k2Pr1/1p1p1p2/pPpP1Pp1/2PpK1P1/3P3P/8/8 w - - 0 1 [/fen]

    involving promotion.
    Trouble here is that the key move, 1.fxe8=N+, is too brutal and obvious. Any other piece gets extinguished by 1...Re7+ in response, so promoting to N is the only real option.
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