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My first ever chess problem-improved version.

My first ever chess problem-improved version.

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white to play and draw. I composed this puzzle years ago, but did some modifications (made it bit harder) today. i think and hope that there is only one solution, but if you find more please inform me.

please dont post the solution right away. EDIT: And do not use Fritz!

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Originally posted by Jusuh
EDIT: And do not use Fritz![/b]
I don't have Fritz.

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Originally posted by GinoJ
I don't have Fritz.
good for you.

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Originally posted by Jusuh
[fen]3q1b2/P7/2k5/p1p1p1p1/PpP1PpPR/NP3P2/4pK2/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]

white to play and draw. I composed this puzzle years ago, but did some modifications (made it bit harder) today. i think and hope that there is only one solution, but if you find more please inform me.

please dont post the solution right away. EDIT: And do not use Fritz!
Here is my version of your position (White to draw again). (Perhaps with a few more improvements this idea may acquire the form it deserves):

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Yes. thats nice too. first I thought there are two solutions, but there aren't.

EDIT: in fact, did you consider that white can promote a bishop too?

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Doh! I missed that...I will think some more on different starting position...

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Originally posted by ilywrin
Here is my version of your position (White to draw again). (Perhaps with a few more improvements this idea may acquire the form it deserves):
[fen]3b4/3qP3/6k1/p1p1p1p1/PpP1PpPR/1P2NP2/3pK3/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]
I'm not crazy about the heavy-handed wR sacrificing in these versions. Perhaps something a bit more minimal might make a good impression:


White draws

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Originally posted by GinoJ
I don't have Fritz.
what's friz?

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Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
I'm not crazy about the heavy-handed wR sacrificing in these versions. Perhaps something a bit more minimal might make a good impression:

[fen]5k2/8/2pNp1p1/1pP1PpPp/1P3P2/8/1K6/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]
White draws
That's actually pretty good :-). If some more foreplay is added, it'll make a really hard study. I'll think about it but that is definitely a shot in the right direction.

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A bit more in that direction (though I have not really checked it, but it seems correct to me):
White to draw:

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involving promotion.

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Originally posted by Jusuh
[fen]3bn3/2k2Pr1/1p1p1p2/pPpP1Pp1/2PpK1P1/3P3P/8/8 w - - 0 1 [/fen]

involving promotion.
Why do you need the pawn at h3? This is interesting, I will consider it. I was thinking of adding black bishop on "f7" in my variation of BigDogg's position, but alas Black wins, there. Your idea of underpromotion is rather good.

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Originally posted by ilywrin
Why do you need the pawn at h3? This is interesting, I will consider it. I was thinking of adding black bishop on "f7" in my variation of BigDogg's position, but alas Black wins, there. Your idea of underpromotion is rather good.
without the h3-pawn, white can promote to a queen on f8, and then move his queen to h8 and then h1 and stop the a-pawn. dont know if thats still winning for black, but its definitely more complicated.

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Originally posted by Jusuh
[fen]3bn3/2k2Pr1/1p1p1p2/pPpP1Pp1/2PpK1P1/3P3P/8/8 w - - 0 1 [/fen]

involving promotion.
Trouble here is that the key move, 1.fxe8=N+, is too brutal and obvious. Any other piece gets extinguished by 1...Re7+ in response, so promoting to N is the only real option.

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