Pawn mate

Originally posted by curseknight
Does black have to avoid quicker mates without a pawn (e.g. best play) or can he move Kh8 after Rg6+ for example?

Black can play any legal move.

Originally posted by curseknight
Does black have to avoid quicker mates without a pawn (e.g. best play) or can he move Kh8 after Rg6+ for example?

"In the final position, the black King must be threatened by a White pawn."

This means that Black need not worry about shorter mates that do not involve a direct pawn check.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
"In the final position, the black King must be threatened by a White pawn."

This means that Black need not worry about shorter mates that do not involve a direct pawn check.

That's what I would have wanted to say too, but I could not. Another annoyance is that if you have several King moves on move 5, 11 and 16, you'd have to work out a lot of variations... I suppose the path towards d2/e2 is semi-forced for the Black King and after that all is forced (or maybe totally in the ending the King can choose two squares with two different variations, but I suppose not)

I just found one with a similar task, (although the setup is a bit different)



White to win with the pawn in six moves.

Originally posted by heinzkat
I just found one with a similar task, (although the setup is a bit different)

[fen]2k5/8/2K5/2R5/2R5/2N5/2P5/8 w - -[/fen]

White to win with the pawn in six moves.

Is the 6th move also mate? Because it already seems won in the current position 😉

Originally posted by crazyblue
Is the 6th move also mate? Because it already seems won in the current position 😉

Yes, white to move and mate with the pawn on move six.

I literally copied the description that went with the diagram, to avoid confusion (since I didn't totally understand it as well).

I presume it is a forced mate? Black isnt being helpful? 😕

Originally posted by wolfgang59
I presume it is a forced mate? Black isnt being helpful? 😕

Correct.

Could the pawn give mate where it currently is?

Or close to it?

Wow.

Originally posted by golfer1
Could the pawn give mate where it currently is?

No because the black king cannot put himself into check.

This problem is driving me nuts.

Originally posted by crazyblue
Is the 6th move also mate? Because it already seems won in the current position 😉

I got:
1 K-d6 K-b8
2 R-c8+ K-a7
3 R4-c7+ K-b6
4 N-d5+ K-a6
5 R-a8+ K-b5
6 -c4#

Originally posted by Thomaster
I got:
1 K-d6 K-b8
2 R-c8+ K-a7
3 R4-c7+ K-b6
4 N-d5+ K-a6
5 R-a8+ K-b5
6 -c4#

What if 1. ... Kd8?