# Proove:1 does not = chair

irontigran
Posers and Puzzles 09 May '07 18:39
1. irontigran
Rob Scheider is..
09 May '07 18:39
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2. irontigran
Rob Scheider is..
09 May '07 21:09
wow, i know its "tuf" by not that bad...
3. AThousandYoung
All My Soldiers...
09 May '07 21:13
1 = 1
1 = (chair/chair)

chair =/= (chair/chair)
chair =/= 1

OR

1 = 1
1 ton = wonton
weight = soup
scale = bowl

Ummm...ok I'm stuck. Use the first proof.
4. irontigran
Rob Scheider is..
09 May '07 21:29
Originally posted by AThousandYoung
1 = 1
1 = (chair/chair)

chair =/= (chair/chair)
chair =/= 1

OR

1 = 1
1 ton = wonton
weight = soup
scale = bowl

Ummm...ok I'm stuck. Use the first proof.
getting very close ๐
5. 09 May '07 21:30
Originally posted by AThousandYoung
1 = 1
1 = (chair/chair)

chair =/= (chair/chair)
chair =/= 1

OR

1 = 1
1 ton = wonton
weight = soup
scale = bowl

Ummm...ok I'm stuck. Use the first proof.
chair could equal chair/chair if under the domain chair = one
6. AThousandYoung
All My Soldiers...
09 May '07 21:33
Originally posted by rubberjaw30
chair could equal chair/chair if under the domain chair = one
Huh? I've never heard a domain described as an equation. Domain is what you plug into a function and you get the range. I'm confused.

In any case, aren't we trying to prove that chair does NOT equal one? Unless you're using a trick where one does not equal 1, which could be clever.
7. 09 May '07 21:38
Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Huh? I've never heard a domain described as an equation. Domain is what you plug into a function and you get the range. I'm confused.

In any case, aren't we trying to prove that chair does NOT equal one? Unless you're using a trick where one does not equal 1, which could be clever.
i mean that it could work if chair and one are equal, meaning that that guy's proof is invalid
the proof that chair and one are not equal is not valid if the proof is disproven by saying that 1 = chair
8. AThousandYoung
All My Soldiers...
09 May '07 21:472 edits
Originally posted by rubberjaw30
i mean that it could work if chair and one are equal, meaning that that guy's proof is invalid
the proof that chair and one are not equal is not valid if the proof is disproven by saying that 1 = chair
If 1 = chair, then this puzzle is impossible to solve..."who gave you permission" to assume that 1 = chair? Where did you get that from?

EDIT - I think I get your point, despite your very poor attempt at getting it across. Are you saying I cannot assume chair =/= chair/chair because I haven't yet proved that chair =/= 1?

By the way, I am "that guy".
9. 09 May '07 21:54
Originally posted by AThousandYoung
If 1 = chair, then this puzzle is impossible to solve..."who gave you permission" to assume that 1 = chair? Where did you get that from?

EDIT - I think I get your point, despite your very poor attempt at getting it across. Are you saying I cannot assume chair =/= chair/chair because I haven't yet proved that chair =/= 1?

By the way, I am "that guy".
only by assuming that something is true, and then finding where it contradicts fact, can it be disproven...
for example...
1=2we assume this is true until we discover that this means that one would have to equal one more than itself, which we know is false...
that's an extremely sinmple example, but you get the idea...
10. 09 May '07 21:55
Originally posted by AThousandYoung
If 1 = chair, then this puzzle is impossible to solve..."who gave you permission" to assume that 1 = chair? Where did you get that from?

EDIT - I think I get your point, despite your very poor attempt at getting it across. Are you saying I cannot assume chair =/= chair/chair because I haven't yet proved that chair =/= 1?

By the way, I am "that guy".
your edit is correct, forget my last post then
11. irontigran
Rob Scheider is..
10 May '07 01:37
keep it up, your almost to where i got stumped at....
12. irontigran
Rob Scheider is..
10 May '07 05:27
ok...it went cold.... i did it 5 steps.
13. irontigran
Rob Scheider is..
10 May '07 05:29

there is a middle step
14. 10 May '07 05:57
Here goes:

c = 299,792,458 m/s (speed of light)
h = 6.62606896 × 10^-34 J·s (Planck's constant)
a = 0.5291772108 × 10^-10 m (Bohr radius)
i = (-1)^(1/2)
r = 8.314 472 J/(molK) (gas constant)

Therefore chair = 8.7400207226450635243266130035272 x 10^-53 i [(Jm)^2]/(molK) =/= 1
15. irontigran
Rob Scheider is..
10 May '07 16:03
Originally posted by Jirakon
Here goes:

c = 299,792,458 m/s (speed of light)
h = 6.62606896 × 10^-34 J·s (Planck's constant)
a = 0.5291772108 × 10^-10 m (Bohr radius)
i = (-1)^(1/2)
r = 8.314 472 J/(molK) (gas constant)

Therefore chair = 8.7400207226450635243266130035272 x 10^-53 i [(Jm)^2]/(molK) =/= 1
wow, well done, i got the same answer this way.

1=arm
arm x force=stuff
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