Posers and Puzzles

Posers and Puzzles

  1. Joined
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    12 Jul '05 15:23
    Find the shortest game in which

    1) the winning side moves pawns only.
    2) both sides move pawns only.
  2. Standard memberBowmann
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    12 Jul '05 15:27
    1) 1. e4 1-0 Black Resigns.

    2) 1. e4 e5 ½-½ Draw Agreed.
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    12 Jul '05 15:37
    Originally posted by Bowmann
    1) 1. e4 1-0 Black Resigns.

    2) 1. e4 e5 ½-½ Draw Agreed.
    Another worthless post from Bowmann.
    Your pitiful attempts to be a smartass would be more appreciated by the kids in General.
  4. Standard memberBowmann
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    12 Jul '05 15:43
    Originally posted by THUDandBLUNDER
    Another worthless post from Bowmann.
    Your pitiful attempts to be a smartass would be more appreciated by the kids in General.
    You strike me as someone just as likely to post this answer. 1) Because it is acceptable. And 2) Because you have a sense of humour.
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    12 Jul '05 15:44
    7 moves either way.
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    12 Jul '05 16:102 edits
    Originally posted by Bowmann
    You strike me as someone just as likely to post this answer. 1) Because it is acceptable. And 2) Because you have a sense of humour.
    You may be right, but
    a) the intended meaning is obvious.
    b) an occasional post that seriously addresses the questions would be appreciated, at least by me.
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    12 Jul '05 16:271 edit
    Okay, evidently I am grossly stupid! I was answering in all seriousness and, looking at the original post, I see no other way, obvious or not, that it can be interpreted unless you count each move by black and white separately in which case the answer is 13.

    I really don't see what I am missing that is so obvious, enlighten me please (preferrably without the sarcasm if at all possible)!

    Jeff

    Sorry, I see you were replying to Bowman and not me. Maybe I'm not grossly stupid, I just can't read!!
  8. Standard memberBowmann
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    12 Jul '05 16:27
    Originally posted by THUDandBLUNDER
    You may be right, but
    a) the intended meaning is obvious.
    b) an occasional post that seriously addresses the questions would be appreciated, at least by me.
    Fair enough. Then I shall try to overlook those occasions on which you have attempted to be a 'smartass' in my own threads.
  9. Joined
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    12 Jul '05 17:08
    Originally posted by Bowmann
    in my own threads.
    Q: What puzzles or posers have you posted?
    A: None that I recall.

    Q: What puzzles or posers have you correctly answered or even taken seriously?
    A: Few at most..
  10. Joined
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    12 Jul '05 17:17
    Originally posted by jebry
    7 moves either way.
    No, one game is shorter than the other.

    What are your variations?
  11. Standard memberBowmann
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    12 Jul '05 17:31
    Originally posted by THUDandBLUNDER
    Q: What puzzles or posers have you posted?
    A: None that I recall.
    Several. You have a short, perhaps selective, memory.
  12. Joined
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    12 Jul '05 18:05
    Hi again!

    Here are my moves:

    1. e4 a5
    2. g4 b5
    3. e5 a4
    4. g5 b4
    5. e6 a3
    6. g6 b3
    7. exf7++

    With only moving pawns I don't see how it can be done any quicker since you need to get two pawns down to the 6th. Now, with the loser moving any piece maybe there is a shorter help mate involving promoting a pawn, I'll look at that.

    Jeff
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    12 Jul '05 18:11
    Okay, I found a shorter help mate:

    1. e4 d5
    2. ed c6
    3. dc Qa5
    4. c7 Bh6
    5. gh Qa2
    6. c8=Q++

    I'll keep looking in case something is shorter.

    Jeff
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    12 Jul '05 18:126 edits
    Originally posted by Bowmann
    Several. You have a short, perhaps selective, memory.
    Ah yes!

    Here is your latest offering (dated April 17, almost 3 months ago), something that even bobbob1056th himself would no doubt be proud of:

    If you're at a loose end one evening and wish to pass some time, set up a chessboard and simply do the following, either alone or with the aid of a friend:

    Play just 3 moves into a game (each side). Put the pieces back onto their starting squares again and play another 3 moves into a different game. Repeat until you have made all the possible combinations of moves, reaching all positions.

    If you find that doesn't kill sufficient time, try it again using 4 moves...


    Although it does not resemble a puzzle, it certainly invokes a few question marks!

  15. Joined
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    12 Jul '05 18:16
    Found a 5 mover and it can't get any shorter than that:

    1. d5 c5
    2. cd Qb6
    3. c6 Qb2
    4. cb Qa1
    5. bc=Q++

    Jeff
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