# Who wins?

Siebren
Posers and Puzzles 16 Apr '05 13:03
1. 16 Apr '05 13:031 edit
OK here's a new one, just composed.

Both players play perfect,
1) white to move who wins? and how?
2) Black to move who wins? and how?

2. 16 Apr '05 22:14
nobody?

ok i 'll give a hint. White to move it's a mate in 7.
3. 17 Apr '05 00:321 edit
Originally posted by Siebren
nobody?

ok i 'll give a hint. White to move it's a mate in 7.
Ok white wins...with a line like this......

1.bxa6 Re1+ 2.Ka2 Rc1 3.Qxb7 Rxc3 4.Qf7 Ra3+ 5.bxa3 Rxd2+ 6.Nxd2 b5 7.Qg8#

4. Marinkatomb
wotagr8game
17 Apr '05 01:271 edit
1.Nf-h4 perhaps...(edit, nope that's not it...)
5. 17 Apr '05 07:38
Originally posted by Siebren
2) Black to move who wins? and how?
2) Nobody.
6. 17 Apr '05 07:46
Originally posted by THUDandBLUNDER
2) Nobody.
agreed. Black can easily draw with Qa4, for instance with perpetual check between d1 and a4.
7. 17 Apr '05 14:252 edits
Originally posted by Mephisto2
agreed. Black can easily draw with Qa4, for instance with perpetual check between d1 and a4.
3) Black to move and helpmate? and how?

1. Qa4 Bxg7+

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8. 17 Apr '05 14:52
Originally posted by THUDandBLUNDER
3) Black to move and helpmate? and how?

1. Qa4 Bxg7+

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LOL, I mixed two variations. How about 1. ... Rf1+ 2.Bxf1 Re1+ 3.Nxe1 Qa1+ 4.Kxa1 stalemate....
9. 17 Apr '05 15:43
Originally posted by phgao
Ok white wins...with a line like this......

1.bxa6 Re1+ 2.Ka2 Rc1 3.Qxb7 Rxc3 4.Qf7 Ra3+ 5.bxa3 Rxd2+ 6.Nxd2 b5 7.Qg8#

correct
10. 17 Apr '05 15:451 edit
Originally posted by THUDandBLUNDER
3) Black to move and helpmate? and how?

1. Qa4 Bxg7+

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11. 17 Apr '05 15:48
Originally posted by Mephisto2
LOL, I mixed two variations. How about 1. ... Rf1+ 2.Bxf1 Re1+ 3.Nxe1 Qa1+ 4.Kxa1 stalemate....
This one is the correct move. :-)
12. BigDoggProblem
Court Jester
17 Apr '05 17:21
Originally posted by Siebren
correct
1.bxa6 is about the most obvious move on the board. ðŸ˜›
13. 18 Apr '05 09:281 edit
Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
1.bxa6 is about the most obvious move on the board. ðŸ˜›
and therefor you don't expect it to be the solution ðŸ˜€ (ok ok I'll make the next one harder)