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Originally posted by RJHindsCheck out a dude named Karl Popper. He is a philosopher who set the stage for what science can be and cannot be. It is real science if and ONLY if it can be falsified in theory. If it cannot in theory be falsified, that is proven wrong, it cannot EVER be science but goes into the realm of metaphysics and the supernatural.
So that the truth can win out over the evil-lution lies of the devil.
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For instance, it is theoretically possible to totally kill evolution as we know it if you find a 200 million year old fossil lion. Give me one of those, and evolution is in deep doo doo.
Creationism cannot be falsified, we can NEVER, even in theory, prove it wrong. That alone bars it from EVER becoming a science. It is ALWAYS going to be in the realm of supernatural events.
So teaching creationism in a science class along side evolution as if creationism was a science cannot EVER work because by definition, creationism is NOT a science and NEVER will be.
Nobody has a gripe with creation being taught in a theology class.
There is a BIG problem forcing creationism to be taught along side evolution in a biology science class and the losing lawsuits have shown even the courts see through the agenda of creationists.
The come into the debate with an agenda and built in bias, trying to twist the world to match the biblical fairy tale of how we all got here. It is in the exact same category as any Aborigine creation tale and cannot EVER be taken as science.
The sooner you get that through your head, the sooner you will stop trying to force creationism on the world.
Originally posted by sonhouseYou are wrong again. If you can prove evilution correct that would prove creationism false. What you mean to say is that evilution can never be proved correct. I have a theory on that one. Maybe evilution is false.
Check out a dude named Karl Popper. He is a philosopher who set the stage for what science can be and cannot be. It is real science if and ONLY if it can be falsified in theory. If it cannot in theory be falsified, that is proven wrong, it cannot EVER be science but goes into the realm of metaphysics and the supernatural.
For instance, it is theoretical ...[text shortened]... u get that through your head, the sooner you will stop trying to force creationism on the world.
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Originally posted by RJHindsevolution HAS been proven correct, idiot.
You are wrong again. If you can prove evilution correct that would prove creationism false. What you mean to say is that evilution can never be proved correct. I have a theory on that one. Maybe evilution is false.
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Originally posted by RJHindsYou know good and well that is not going to happen. Talk about strawmen, you bring up total crap and think that is some kind of defense of creationism?
Then it should be simple for you to show me a monkey change into a man. And I don't mean with animation like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W763lQR0tU
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You completely misunderstood the concepts developed by Karl Popper. You don't even know what science IS much less what science ISN'T.
If it cannot be IN THEORY falsified, that is refuted, it isn't science. That goes for ALL science not just evolution. What is good for the goose is good for the gander, ALL SCIENCE.
You have an insane blind spot when it comes to evolution. That is the sum of it.
You would do ANYTHING in your insane attempt to force creationism to be a science. Creationism cannot now or EVER be falsified.
That BY DEFINITION means it is not now and never will be, a science.
You are just too stupid to understand that FACT.
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Originally posted by RJHinds
Then it should be simple for you to show me a monkey change into a man. And I don't mean with animation like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W763lQR0tU
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Then it should be simple for you to show me a monkey change into a man.
No. And obviously I don't need to because evolution does not say this would happen, idiot! But you obviously already know that and just pretending not to, double idiot!
Originally posted by sonhouseIf creationism can never be falsified that must mean it is true regardless if it is science or not.
You know good and well that is not going to happen. Talk about strawmen, you bring up total crap and think that is some kind of defense of creationism?
You completely misunderstood the concepts developed by Karl Popper. You don't even know what science IS much less what science ISN'T.
If it cannot be IN THEORY falsified, that is refuted, it isn't scie ...[text shortened]... is not now and never will be, a science.
You are just too stupid to understand that FACT.
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Originally posted by humyYes, I already knew it but most of you guys don't. I wasn't pretending not to know, I was just putting you guys to the test and you honestly admitted it could not happen. Therefore, evilution is false becase one kind of animal does not change into another kind of animal as you should know. What you call evolution is just adaptation and variations within species, nothing more. There was no common ancestor billions of years ago that turned into all the different kinds of creatures we see today. It just never happened. That's the facts, Jack.Then it should be simple for you to show me a monkey change into a man.
No. And obviously I don't need to because evolution does not say this would happen, idiot! But you obviously already know that and just pretending not to, double idiot!
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Originally posted by RJHinds
Yes, I already knew it but most of you guys don't. I wasn't pretending not to know, I was just putting you guys to the test and you honestly admitted it could not happen. Therefore, evilution is false becase one kind of animal does not change into another kind of animal as you should know. What you call evolution is just adaptation and variations within s ...[text shortened]... of creatures we see today. It just never happened. That's the facts, Jack.
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Yes, I already knew it but most of you guys don't.
Really? OK, just give just one example of a quote from just one example of “most of you guys” that says a monkey can turn into a man.....
can't do it? So it is not “most” of these guys then but “none”.
I wasn't pretending not to know,
That makes it even worse! That means your were DELIBERATELY using a straw man.
Get this through you thick skull once and for all:
NONE of us says or believes a monkey can turn into a man. Got it now?
Originally posted by RJHindsIf it can't be falsified it is not science and belongs in the realm of religious fairy tales. Science cannot say creation is true OR false. You can believe what you want about creationism but it can never be a science. THAT is what Karl Popper shows. You just rationalizing it away saying it MUST therefore be true is just your deluded belief showing.
If creationism can never be falsified that must mean it is true regardless if it is science or not.
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Originally posted by sonhouseOkay. I believe creationism is better than science because creationism is true. Science is man's attempt to understand the truth. Many so-called evilution scientists put their faith in unproven assumptions rather than true facts.
If it can't be falsified it is not science and belongs in the realm of religious fairy tales. Science cannot say creation is true OR false. You can believe what you want about creationism but it can never be a science. THAT is what Karl Popper shows. You just rationalizing it away saying it MUST therefore be true is just your deluded belief showing.
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Originally posted by RJHindsAnd of course only you know the TRUE facts. You wouldn't recognize a true fact if it came up and bit you on the nose.
Okay. I believe creationism is better than science because creationism is true. Science is man's attempt to understand the truth. Many so-called evilution scientists put their faith in unproven assumptions rather than true facts.
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Your delusions keep you from seeing that the science of evolution uses the same principles as any other science, like math or physics or electrical theory or genetics.
It is just the conclusions scientists are forced to conclude that show facts that refute creationism where you claim they don't know what they are talking about.
You refuse to get it through your extremely thick skull the same scientific method that produced computers is the exact same method that allows scientists to say the Earth is 4+ billion years old and life evolved by itself and they freely admit they don't have solid evidence on how life got here so you use that to try to destroy evolution even though evolution and origin of life are two different sciences.
You cannot accept evolution because we don't have a definitive answer to the origin of life YET.
You don't have any interest in actually forwarding science, you HATE the idea that men actually have the intelligence to wake up and smell the real coffee.
If it was up to you, you would lobotomize all scientists so you could force your deluded dogma on every man and woman on the planet.
Your fondest wish is to turn America into a christian Iran.
Originally posted by sonhouseMy fondest wish is for you to be saved from your sin and we could meet in heaven and show Christian love to one another.
And of course only you know the TRUE facts. You wouldn't recognize a true fact if it came up and bit you on the nose.
Your delusions keep you from seeing that the science of evolution uses the same principles as any other science, like math or physics or electrical theory or genetics.
It is just the conclusions scientists are forced to conclude that ...[text shortened]... man and woman on the planet.
Your fondest wish is to turn America into a christian Iran.
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