Conservation of Energy

Originally posted by sonhouse
Your fundamental assumptions may be faulty. For instance, you say as a fact that spacetime does not exist outside our universe but that is not a given, only a conjecture. T zero may be only a local clock zero if there are other dimensions and the recent work by Penrose analyzing the CMB seeming to show perhaps a connection to a larger universe inherent in t ...[text shortened]... nsional sense leaving open the concept of a truly infinite 'whole' universe outside our ken.

Edit: "T zero may be only when OUR universe got jump started and our universe may be expanding in a higher dimensional framework which would allow other universes to pop up 'near' ours in a higher dimensional sense leaving open the concept of a truly infinite 'whole' universe outside our ken."

Cool! I don't know if you are aware of the fact that this hypothesis is based on an ancient approach that goes like this:

The relationship of the Sephiroth (or eons) is considered factual by specific QBLH practitioners and it signifies the different orders in the celestial hierarchy and, thus, in the so called creation of our universe. Of course this idea is first mentioned in the Vedas regarding the figure of Brahma according to the Hindus. Mind you, the ten Sephiroth are merely models for the creation of the universe as we perceive it. According to this QBLH approach, from these “eons” emerged the Four Worlds known as Aziluth, Briah, Jezirah and Asiah, each world successively proceeding out of the one "above" it, and each in succession enveloping its superior. Now, since each one of these Four Worlds contains the basic ten Sephiroth (in successively less pure form) and it is projecting the next World and so on ad infinitum (Aziluth’s Malkut is projecting Briah because it is connected to Briah’s Keter; Briah’s Malkut is projecting Jezirah because it is connected to Jezirah’s Keter and so on), our universe is considered nothing but a multi-universe generator, with each multi-universe working as a multi-universe generator too ad infinitum
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Originally posted by black beetle
Edit: "T zero may be only when OUR universe got jump started and our universe may be expanding in a higher dimensional framework which would allow other universes to pop up 'near' ours in a higher dimensional sense leaving open the concept of a truly infinite 'whole' universe outside our ken."

Cool! I don't know if you are aware of the fact that this or, with each multi-universe working as a multi-universe generator too ad infinitum
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Are you saying in that concept each daughter universe gets somehow worse on some scale or other? 'less pure' means what exactly? Does that mean it's the reason we have 3 yo girls dying of vagina cancer, gangs taking over large territories by terrorizing the population (Think Juarez), etc., humans valuing life so little they kill without remorse or guilt? Going away from spirituality? Crass commercialism? Killing the planet with planet wide greed, in the sense of mass extinctions?

Originally posted by sonhouse
Are you saying in that concept each daughter universe gets somehow worse on some scale or other? 'less pure' means what exactly? Does that mean it's the reason we have 3 yo girls dying of vagina cancer, gangs taking over large territories by terrorizing the population (Think Juarez), etc., humans valuing life so little they kill without remorse or guilt? Go ...[text shortened]... s commercialism? Killing the planet with planet wide greed, in the sense of mass extinctions?

"Less pure" in that context means "manifested in a volume with even more observers". The mind-only primordial energy is "pure" because it lacks of observers; the ultimate, unobserved ad infinitum primordial energy is hidden in a veil whose characteristics are similar to the gravitational singularity
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