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  1. 10 Oct '13 17:47
    http://phys.org/news/2013-10-elephants-required.html

    You would be forgiven for thinking that is unremarkable -until you are informed that not primate other than humans understands pointing.
  2. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Do ya think?
    10 Oct '13 18:51
    Originally posted by humy
    http://phys.org/news/2013-10-elephants-required.html

    You would be forgiven for thinking that is unremarkable -until you are informed that not primate other than humans understands pointing.
    Dogs understand pointing.
  3. 10 Oct '13 21:02
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Dogs understand pointing.
    I have video proof

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGYqCiAXvrU
  4. Standard member wolfgang59
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    11 Oct '13 02:29
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Dogs understand pointing.
    I concur.
    When they lose their ball in long grass they look back at me for help and go wherever I point.
  5. 11 Oct '13 05:32
    My cat understands pointing. But ignores me anyway
  6. 11 Oct '13 09:43
    Do Creationists understand pointing?
  7. 11 Oct '13 09:46 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    I concur.
    When they lose their ball in long grass they look back at me for help and go wherever I point.
    For a moment there I misread "ball" as "balls" in your quote and your quote sounded pretty hilarious and wasn't sure what exactly you where implying.
  8. Standard member wolfgang59
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    12 Oct '13 22:19
    Originally posted by humy
    For a moment there I misread "ball" as "balls" in your quote and your quote sounded pretty hilarious and wasn't sure what exactly you where implying.
    LOL. That would be a good trick!

    Reread your link and had a think about it ... I guess the difference with dogs
    is that they learn to read my gesticulations as 'that is where the ball
    is' but t he article implies that elephants have an innate understanding of
    'pointing' and do not have to learn it.
  9. 13 Oct '13 07:12
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    I guess the difference with dogs is that they learn to read my gesticulations
    I think we would want to test that. I would think that any animal without innate ability in that area would find it hard to learn.

    I think I would also point out that some dogs can point.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_breed
  10. Standard member wolfgang59
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    13 Oct '13 19:35
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    I think we would want to test that. I would think that any animal without innate ability in that area would find it hard to learn.

    I think I would also point out that some dogs can point.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_breed
    Yep. Both my collies point and they are not even a "pointing breed".
    Mainly it is to a toy to play with but they also point to spiders and dead bees!
  11. 14 Oct '13 06:05
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Yep. Both my collies point and they are not even a "pointing breed".
    Mainly it is to a toy to play with but they also point to spiders and dead bees!
    Many animals have 'danger' signals, and some indicate in which direction the danger is, others indicate what type of predator it is.
  12. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Do ya think?
    14 Oct '13 17:13
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Many animals have 'danger' signals, and some indicate in which direction the danger is, others indicate what type of predator it is.
    Dogs point at prey though.
  13. 15 Oct '13 06:19
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Dogs point at prey though.
    Wolves are cooperative hunters. They need to understand each others signals.

    Here are some fish that know how to point:
    http://news.discovery.com/animals/fish-use-sign-language-130429.htm
  14. Standard member wolfgang59
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    15 Oct '13 22:37
    Originally posted by twhitehead

    Here are some fish that know how to point:
    http://news.discovery.com/animals/fish-use-sign-language-130429.htm
    That's nothing.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EchU-2S4SwA
  15. 16 Oct '13 06:12
    Originally posted by humy
    You would be forgiven for thinking that is unremarkable -until you are informed that not primate other than humans understands pointing.
    I think its possible that non-human primates do not point with thier hands, but use other ways to signal direction. Elephants however, having a trunk, may interpret human hand signals better.