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  1. Standard member avalanchethecat
    Not actually a cat
    27 Nov '10 20:58
    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ice-meteorite-found-with-extraterrestrial-life-forms-109640729.html

    Looks interesting...
  2. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Do ya think?
    28 Nov '10 00:53
    How did a block of ice survive the fall through the atmosphere?
  3. 28 Nov '10 05:39
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ice-meteorite-found-with-extraterrestrial-life-forms-109640729.html

    Looks interesting...
    You can buy photos of the aliens from their website. Its a scam, pure and simple.
  4. 29 Nov '10 00:06
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    You can buy photos of the aliens from their website. Its a scam, pure and simple.
    I can buy photos of aliens from their own website?

    That's the proof I've been looking for!
  5. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    01 Dec '10 15:52 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ice-meteorite-found-with-extraterrestrial-life-forms-109640729.html

    Looks interesting...
    An announcement at a Ramada inn? Well I believe it don't you?

    On the other hand, NASA has made this announcement of its own, to be revealed on Dec 2 2pm EST:

    http://www.physorg.com/news/2010-12-nasa-extraterrestrial.html
  6. Standard member avalanchethecat
    Not actually a cat
    01 Dec '10 18:53
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    An announcement at a Ramada inn? Well I believe it don't you?

    On the other hand, NASA has made this announcement of its own, to be revealed on Dec 2 2pm EST:

    http://www.physorg.com/news/2010-12-nasa-extraterrestrial.html
    Looks pretty unlikely I'll admit but hey, you never know. I was particularly amused with the quote about him praying to Jesus for an ice meteorite. Still, it wasn't blue, so I guess it's probably one of these: http://www.megacryometeors.com/. So anyway, did he do his press conference? I can't find anything on google about it.
  7. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    02 Dec '10 06:05
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    Looks pretty unlikely I'll admit but hey, you never know. I was particularly amused with the quote about him praying to Jesus for an ice meteorite. Still, it wasn't blue, so I guess it's probably one of these: http://www.megacryometeors.com/. So anyway, did he do his press conference? I can't find anything on google about it.
    As far as 'cryometeors' go, a simple statistical test would reveal the nature of those things: How many of them fall during hot summer months? 99.99% chance it is simply ice from aircraft wings jostled loose during flight and there would be a lot less or none in summer.
  8. 02 Dec '10 11:30 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    How did a block of ice survive the fall through the atmosphere?
    It was a VERY BIG block of ice but ended up considerably smaller.
  9. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    02 Dec '10 17:15
    Originally posted by lausey
    It was a VERY BIG block of ice but ended up considerably smaller.
    The thing is, 'surviving' a trip through the atmosphere is like giving credence to the idea it was an ice meteor. It was already IN the atmosphere 30,000 feet up max when it was yanked from the wing of the jet so there was not much atmosphere to go through in the first place.

    Also, why do we just hear about this stuff now, and not have stories about this say in the 15th, 16th,17th, 18th,19th century? Seems to me this kind of thing popped up in the 20th and 21st, strangely enough just after jets were invented. Hmm.......
  10. Standard member avalanchethecat
    Not actually a cat
    02 Dec '10 18:57
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    As far as 'cryometeors' go, a simple statistical test would reveal the nature of those things: How many of them fall during hot summer months? 99.99% chance it is simply ice from aircraft wings jostled loose during flight and there would be a lot less or none in summer.
    Wow, 99.99% eh? Blimey. I mean, I suspect you're right and all, but it's a long time since I had that sort of confidence in my opinions!
  11. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Do ya think?
    02 Dec '10 20:19
    Maybe global warming is popping off pieces of the ice caps with more force than expected, launching them like ballistic missiles!
  12. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    02 Dec '10 23:32 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    Wow, 99.99% eh? Blimey. I mean, I suspect you're right and all, but it's a long time since I had that sort of confidence in my opinions!
    Like I said, this sort of thing only started happening outside of hailstorms and such, in the late 20th and now in the 21st. Seems like that should raise a red flag, just when passenger jet traffic started up big time.

    Also, isotopic analysis would show the ice to have been deposited IN our atmosphere with our atmospheric pollution, deep inside the ice, which could not happen if it had an extraterrestrial origin.

    Which is not to say there are no icy comets that hit the earth. There is a nice argument for such comets to have provided most if not all the water now present on Earth. That said, however, any such comet would almost never leave anything but water vapor, burning up completely in the atmosphere, not much left to actually hit the earth.