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  1. 04 Mar '10 15:56
    The Japanese recently announced a Space Program, with the goal of capturing energy from the Sun. I suspect some day they will have solar panels orbiting the sun, and relaying energy to orbiting battery packs around earth. They will then run their cars, heat their homes, and power their industries with this renewable energy. We will be walking on the moon, and driving tinker-toys on Mars, while indirectly financing terrorism by purchasing oil from the Middle-East. NASA, the biggest boon-doggle ever foisted on us taxpayers, will be farther behind the Japanese than Detroit was when it continued to make chrome-plated dinosaurs after the 1973 oil crisis. How can we taxpayers get NASA turned away from their space playgrounds, and get to work on the Sun?
  2. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Do ya think?
    04 Mar '10 16:04
    Originally posted by John Osmar
    The Japanese recently announced a Space Program, with the goal of capturing energy from the Sun. I suspect some day they will have solar panels orbiting the sun, and relaying energy to orbiting battery packs around earth. They will then run their cars, heat their homes, and power their industries with this renewable energy. We will be walking on the moon, ...[text shortened]... can we taxpayers get NASA turned away from their space playgrounds, and get to work on the Sun?
    Dyson swarm ftw!
  3. 04 Mar '10 18:41
    Could you translate, so I know if it's enlightenment or insult?
  4. 05 Mar '10 06:18
    Originally posted by John Osmar
    The Japanese recently announced a Space Program, with the goal of capturing energy from the Sun. I suspect some day they will have solar panels orbiting the sun, and relaying energy to orbiting battery packs around earth. They will then run their cars, heat their homes, and power their industries with this renewable energy. We will be walking on the moon, ...[text shortened]... can we taxpayers get NASA turned away from their space playgrounds, and get to work on the Sun?
    nasa annual budget is only $13B.
  5. 05 Mar '10 06:18
    they could greatly improve their targets of interest, tho. agree with you there.
  6. 05 Mar '10 06:19
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectenna

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_satellite
  7. 05 Mar '10 06:22
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Dyson swarm ftw!
    heterogenous dyson swarm in orbit right now.
  8. 05 Mar '10 14:53
    I admit that $13B does not compare with other budget items, but the cost in wasted scientific work is a much greater part of the problem. Suppose all this effort had gone into creating transportation that doesn't use gasoline, or better methods of obtaining drinkable water from the oceans, or some sort of chemical recycling system for trash, etc. etc. There are brilliant scientists who have spent their entire careers working on toilet systems for astronauts!
  9. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Do ya think?
    05 Mar '10 16:37
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    heterogenous dyson swarm in orbit right now.
    Nah, a proper such swarm would prevent anyone outside of it from being able to see the Sun.
  10. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Do ya think?
    05 Mar '10 16:37
    Originally posted by John Osmar
    Could you translate, so I know if it's enlightenment or insult?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere
  11. 06 Mar '10 04:42
    Originally posted by John Osmar
    I admit that $13B does not compare with other budget items, but the cost in wasted scientific work is a much greater part of the problem. Suppose all this effort had gone into creating transportation that doesn't use gasoline, or better methods of obtaining drinkable water from the oceans, or some sort of chemical recycling system for trash, etc. etc. The ...[text shortened]... lliant scientists who have spent their entire careers working on toilet systems for astronauts!
    you might want to start your pruning with Elizabethan scholars, then.
  12. 06 Mar '10 07:21
    Originally posted by John Osmar
    Suppose all this effort had gone into creating transportation that doesn't use gasoline, ...
    There is already transportation that doesn't use gasoline. What has held up implementation is US politics not a lack of scientists. Luckily China doesn't have the same political issues and will soon flood the world with electric cars.