13 Mar '12 05:48>
Is this just non-sense? A perpetual motion motor using magnets somehow ?
Manny
Manny
Originally posted by menace71I have theorised that, using superconductor magnets and superconductor wires only, you can make both electric motors and electric generators, literally, 100% efficient.
Is this just non-sense? A perpetual motion motor using magnets somehow ?
Manny
Originally posted by humywhat you're describing is an elaborate battery.
I have theorised that, using superconductor magnets and superconductor wires only, you can make both electric motors and electric generators, literally, 100% efficient.
For that to work, you will have to remove all frictional losses by making the barrings magnetic barrings using superconductors and put both the electric motors and electric generators in a pure ...[text shortened]... ould not make any new energy from it and you could not make any non-trivial practical use of it.
Originally posted by VoidSpiritActually its two batteries, continually charging each other. A superconducting coil is a battery and a rotating mass is a battery. The motor/generator transfer energy between the two batteries.
what you're describing is an elaborate battery.
Originally posted by twhitehead“...I don't believe it can be done 100% efficiently as a magnetic field is not finite. ...”
Actually its two batteries, continually charging each other. A superconducting coil is a battery and a rotating mass is a battery. The motor/generator transfer energy between the two batteries.
I don't believe it can be done 100% efficiently as a magnetic field is not finite.
Originally posted by menace71Most are scams and the rest is foolishness and a complete misunderstanding of physics. It starts in the very first paragraph, where the author is confused about electron spin. Granted, the use of the same term for two similar but non-identical phenomena can be confusing to some laymen - but a layman who pretends to write about physics should first make sure he isn't among the confused ones.
http://free-energy-info.co.uk/
seems most of these are scams though 🙂 Just seems very interesting no doubt.
Originally posted by humySo magnetism isn't like gravity? I hadn't realised that. It doesn't just dissipate with distance, it can be stopped in its tracks. I stand corrected then.
what if all the magnetic fields is completely surrounded by a layer of superconductor i.e. entirely contained within a container made of superconductor?
Then the magnetic field would be finite because the superconductor container would stop any of the magnetic field to go outside of it.
Originally posted by twhiteheadThe characteristic of superconductors that makes it technologically possible to contain a magnetic field ( although it is much more often used to block the field from entering an area rather than contain it there ) so that the field doesn't continue in a direction for an infinite distance ( like it would otherwise do normally ) is called the “London depth” :
So magnetism isn't like gravity? I hadn't realised that. It doesn't just dissipate with distance, it can be stopped in its tracks. I stand corrected then.
Originally posted by humyAt best it would perpetuate its own movement but any energy extracted from the system would slow it down so like he said, its a battery at best and not an energy source. You have to supply energy to bootstrap the movement.
The characteristic of superconductors that makes it technologically possible to contain a magnetic field ( although it is much more often used to block the field from entering an area rather than contain it there ) so that the field doesn't continue in a direction for an infinite distance ( like it would otherwise do normally ) is called the “London depth” :
...[text shortened]... can be stopped dead i.e. totally blocked a certain distance into the superconductor material.