Pulling on a Sandwiched Block

Originally posted by apathist
I'm experienced about the ubur-verse. What level are we attacking here? We may be a dream, but then what about the dreamer?

I was attacking at the level of; the model "is" or "will be" reality at some point. A never-ending self referencing closed loop computation.

"What level are we attacking here? We may be a dream, but then what about the dreamer?"

I think that is the same level as I mentioned. Logic so obviously inescapable with a truth so absurd and incomprehensible.

Originally posted by joe shmo... If I we do actually exist, how do we ultimately exist in nothing?...

I love the turtles, the nested dolls. Your question is about the first mystery. Why is there anything? But there is, and now you've met a brute fact.

What were we talking about, anyway?