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Question about the Higgs particle:

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So the higgs is supposed to be the particle that gives other particles mass, but what gives the Higgs its own mass?

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Other Higgs bosons, I suppose.

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I am no expert on this so I may be mistaken but I thought it is not the actual Higgs boson itself that is supposed to directly give particles their mass but rather it is the “Higgs mechanism” that is the actual thing that is supposed to directly give particles their mass and the Higgs mechanism is the interaction between the “Higgs field” and the Higgs boson.

Anyone; is that completely right?

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Other Higgs bosons, I suppose.
Maybe, but what is the force carrier then ?
Guess somebody who knows something about it could set the record straight ?

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Originally posted by sonhouse
So the higgs is supposed to be the particle that gives other particles mass, but what gives the Higgs its own mass?
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eM-V_LbE1yYJ:www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D618486+but+what+gives+the+Higgs+its+own+mass&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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Originally posted by ChessPraxis
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eM-V_LbE1yYJ:www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D618486+but+what+gives+the+Higgs+its+own+mass&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
I am not sure if that conversation confirms or refutes what I just said. It mentions:

“...Higgs interacts with itself, which gives it the mass....”

“....So would you be able to generalize and say that the higgs is mass?
.....
No. The Higgs has a mass, and it is responsible for the mass of other elementary partices. It is responsible for about 1% of the mass of all everyday matter.
...”

“...the Higgs boson is responsible for the rest mass of particles only. Most of the mass of everyday objects (~99% ) comes from binding energy in protons and neutrons. ...”

the “Higgs field” was mentioned there but not the “Higgs mechanism” which surprises me because I thought the Higgs mechanism would be directly relevant to the question there.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
So the higgs is supposed to be the particle that gives other particles mass, but what gives the Higgs its own mass?
If we knew that, then we'd know where the energy came from to create the BB from a singularity.

A very pertinent question, regarding both 'matters'... 😀

-m. 😉

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Originally posted by Scheel
Maybe, but what is the force carrier then ?
Guess somebody who knows something about it could set the record straight ?
Fractal Higgs bosons!

Richard, only half joking

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Originally posted by Scheel
Maybe, but what is the force carrier then ?
Guess somebody who knows something about it could set the record straight ?
The Higgs boson does not explain gravity, it explains mass (but not dark matter from what I understand). The mediation of the force of gravity is not done by the Higgs boson.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
The Higgs boson does not explain gravity, it explains mass (but not dark matter from what I understand). The mediation of the force of gravity is not done by the Higgs boson.
If I understand correctly it doesn't explain mass, but it's existence is a necessary consequence from the Higgs mechanism.

So if mass is explained by the Higgs mechanism there has to be a particle, which now conviniently is named Higgs Boson.

I am open to discuss this.

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