27 May 17
Rather than debating temperature rises and the cherry picking of data from different sources it may be better to gauge glacier melting with sea level rise since that is where the melting ends up.
Nils-Axel Mörner says sea levels are not increasing at an alarming rate. Is he wrong and if so by how much?
27 May 17
Originally posted by Metal BrainHow alarming sea level rise is, depends very much on where you live. Although I live near the sea in Cape Town, I am not yet alarmed personally. I am certainly concerned about the long term though.
Rather than debating temperature rises and the cherry picking of data from different sources it may be better to gauge glacier melting with sea level rise since that is where the melting ends up.
Nils-Axel Mörner says sea levels are not increasing at an alarming rate. Is he wrong and if so by how much?
But sea level rise is only one aspect of global warming. An glacier melt rates is probably not the smartest way to measure temperatures. We have thermometers, and satellites for that.
27 May 17
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Originally posted by Metal Brain1, I am not aware of anyone, let alone a climate scientist, saying that sea level rise is currently occurring at an 'alarming rate". I am not implying such a person doesn't exists but rather such people must be a relative rarity and certainly not what we would call 'the norm'.
Nils-Axel Mörner says sea levels are not increasing at an alarming rate. Is he wrong and if so by how much?
2, your question is a totally stupid one to post in a SCIENCE forum since "alarming" (anything) isn't a scientific term or scientific quantity but rather is an emotional response. So your question "Is he wrong and if so by how much?" is a totally unanswerable question in any valid science; unless you can explain to us how we can numerically (i.e. put an actual number to it such as "3" or 5.3" etc ) and scientifically define the 'amount of' emotion of "alarm" so we can then say, as you asked, "...by how much" 😛
27 May 17
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Originally posted by humyYes, it's Swedish. He is Swedish. Google Translate will give you a clue.
err, unless I am seriously missing something, your link appears to be written in some non-English language.
He believes in some strange things. So I wouldn't trust him too much.
01 Jun 17
Originally posted by humy"2, your question is a totally stupid one to post in a SCIENCE forum since "alarming" (anything) isn't a scientific term or scientific quantity but rather is an emotional response."
1, I am not aware of anyone, let alone a climate scientist, saying that sea level rise is currently occurring at an 'alarming rate". I am not implying such a person doesn't exists but rather such people must be a relative rarity and certainly not what we would call 'the norm'.
2, your question is a totally stupid one to post in a SCIENCE forum since "alarmin ...[text shortened]... define the 'amount of' emotion of "alarm" so we can then say, as you asked, "...by how much" 😛
You have used the term "denier" many times. Is that a scientific term that is not an emotional response?
01 Jun 17
Originally posted by twhiteheadThermometers are often put in cities and airports that are "heat islands". Not the smartest way to measure temperatures. I think sea levels are the best way to gauge how much warming is actually taking place.
How alarming sea level rise is, depends very much on where you live. Although I live near the sea in Cape Town, I am not yet alarmed personally. I am certainly concerned about the long term though.
But sea level rise is only one aspect of global warming. An glacier melt rates is probably not the smartest way to measure temperatures. We have thermometers, and satellites for that.
01 Jun 17
Originally posted by FabianFnasExpecting English speaking people to translate Swedish is not the smartest way to convince us you have a point.
Yes, it's Swedish. He is Swedish. Google Translate will give you a clue.
He believes in some strange things. So I wouldn't trust him too much.
01 Jun 17
Originally posted by Metal BrainDo you really think scientists in climatology measure temperatures in cities and airports? Don't you think there are thermometers in more isolated places? Don't you think there are many methods to measure temperatures? Don't you think they calibrate their methods to avoid these heat islands?
Thermometers are often put in cities and airports that are "heat islands". Not the smartest way to measure temperatures. I think sea levels are the best way to gauge how much warming is actually taking place.