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http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/alike/alike.htm
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOur friend robbie has gone Zen? 🙂
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/alike/alike.htm
Originally posted by FabianFnasour friend? thanks Judas! but no thanks, you stabbed me in the back enough times thank you very much, if you appreciated the snowflakes then that is all and well and good, i remain committed from refraining to enter into any type of discussion with you given your track record of betrayal!
Our friend robbie has gone Zen? 🙂
The bottom line of his link is this: "And thus it's unlikely that any two complex snow crystals, out of all those made over the entire history of the planet, have ever looked completely alike"
I would like to say the same thing about grains of sand: "And thus it's unlikely that any two grain of sand, out of all tho etty, grains of sand are not. This doesn't make grains of sand less zen than snow flakes.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThis is a whole new thread, robbie. We always start from scratch at every new thread. Remember the words of Jesus: "Thou shalt forgive your enemies".
our friend? thanks Judas! but no thanks, you stabbed me in the back enough times thank you very much, if you appreciated the snowflakes then that is all and well and good, i remain reluctant to enter into any discussion with you given your track record of betrayal!
Originally posted by FabianFnasok, i guess even the fallen heroes of Valhalla awake afresh each morning to be attended upon by pretty maidens, to drink the mead of poetry and to battle afresh each day, so be it!
This is a whole new thread, robbie. We always start from scratch at every new thread. Remember the words of Jesus: "Thou shalt forgive your enemies".
By the way, I took a long zen reading in the link of yours. Interesting stuff, robbie, I thank you for the link! Incredibly interesting!
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOne thing I learnt was the fact that each arm in the same flake isn't as the others, not even each arm isn't symmetric in itself. Without thinking I thought that it was a true six-fold symmetry on each flake, but I was wrong. When I think about it the non-symmetry is natural as it should be by the laws of physics.
ok, i guess even the fallen heroes of Valhalla awake afresh each morning to be attended upon by pretty maidens, to drink the mead of poetry and to battle afresh each day, so be it!
I am genuinely glad you enjoyed the site Fabian, they fascinate me no end also, the Zen aspect is interesting, although the science of the thing more so. There have ...[text shortened]... ourse various attempts to marry science and metaphysics, as in Shiva the destroyer and Cern etc.
Originally posted by FabianFnasyes it was awesome, i am trying to wade my way through the chaps paper on the formation of ice crystals, it seems that there are just so many factors involved, as he mentions, humidity, the surface tension of the ice, condensation on the surface from surrounding water vapour etc, its just too much, i don't think i fully understand what he is saying and my mind keeps telling me, just go back to the pictures robbie, its the best thing for you!
One thing I learnt was the fact that each arm in the same flake isn't as the others, not even each arm isn't symmetric in itself. Without thinking I thought that it was a true six-fold symmetry on each flake, but I was wrong. When I think about it the non-symmetry is natural as it should be by the laws of physics.
Did you see the movies how a flake evolve? Truly fascinating!
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThanks Robbie.
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/alike/alike.htm
Originally posted by Taomanhi, you are most welcome, although i do not purport to understand everything you cited, although if it was of interest, then tis enough for me 🙂
Thanks Robbie.
Even the sameness of an electron, mentioned by the author, is at least questionable. Below is a quote I pasted in the Holographic post, which seems to support (still) in current quantum physics work the notion that an electron is unable to be ultimately defined. How can one say therefore they are the same?
It also talks of atoms consist ...[text shortened]... events/research_highlights/archive/molecular_double_slit_experiment/index_eng.html