29 Jan '05 23:14

I play chess in the 2000+ category. When I signed up at RHP I messaged Russ and asked him to start my rating around my USCF rating. He informed me that everyone starts at 1200, but it doesn't matter because you will eventually arrive at your level of play.

Well, let's talk about this rating system.

Has anyone besides myself noticed how hard it is to get to the same rating that they hold in their respective chess organizations?

Members at RHP are underrated!!! And here's why:

The RHP pool is a CLOSED rating system. What that means is that you could go in and add every player's rating and come up with a total value. Now then, since everyone starts at 1200, even the Experts and Masters, as they progress they pull points out of the total pool. Like I said, It's a CLOSED pool!

So what does that mean? It means that over a period of time, a person's rating will no longer be in relationship to his ability - No! A person's rating will be IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE RATING LADDER. According to the science of math alone, and given a long period of time... even Expert players here will have their ratings dropped to 200 or even 400 points under their real ability.

We can fix this. USCF realized the same problem a decade ago and they fixed it. However, the system here is not the same as their system, so I'd like to offer a "fix" for the rating system at RHP, and I'd like your input.

How about if RHP gives bonus points to a player's rating when they beat players rated 200 points above them? This is just one of the "fudge factors" used by USCF and many others are possible. Fr example, the rating system at RHP could also add a percentage point gain for "X" number of games played.

I'll leave it up to the membership here to expound on these ideas.

arrakis

Well, let's talk about this rating system.

Has anyone besides myself noticed how hard it is to get to the same rating that they hold in their respective chess organizations?

Members at RHP are underrated!!! And here's why:

The RHP pool is a CLOSED rating system. What that means is that you could go in and add every player's rating and come up with a total value. Now then, since everyone starts at 1200, even the Experts and Masters, as they progress they pull points out of the total pool. Like I said, It's a CLOSED pool!

So what does that mean? It means that over a period of time, a person's rating will no longer be in relationship to his ability - No! A person's rating will be IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE RATING LADDER. According to the science of math alone, and given a long period of time... even Expert players here will have their ratings dropped to 200 or even 400 points under their real ability.

We can fix this. USCF realized the same problem a decade ago and they fixed it. However, the system here is not the same as their system, so I'd like to offer a "fix" for the rating system at RHP, and I'd like your input.

How about if RHP gives bonus points to a player's rating when they beat players rated 200 points above them? This is just one of the "fudge factors" used by USCF and many others are possible. Fr example, the rating system at RHP could also add a percentage point gain for "X" number of games played.

I'll leave it up to the membership here to expound on these ideas.

arrakis