Originally posted by sonhouse
The title says 2.8 mil and the inner statement says 28 mil. That is probably a typo. I would go with 2.8. Would love to have been there with a camera to record any language they might have had. And if no language, then fast forward in time to catch the first human words! Trace how languages evolved from day one!

The tiltle should probably be more like 2.8 thousand. 😏

Because you can’t date a fossil like this directly, the team dated the volcanic ash layers around it. By measuring different isotopes of argon, they were able to determine the age of the eruption that created the sample.

Argon dating of volcanic ash is known to be bogus.

Potassium-Argon Dating: Flawed Science, Corrupted Result

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Originally posted by Zahlanzi
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/28-million-year-old-jawbone-oldest-homo-fossil-ever-discovered

The Vedas have been telling the world that humans have been populating this earth for hundreds of millions of years.

This knowledge about extreme human antiquity has also been discussed and documented in the book [ Forbidden Archeology By M. Cremo.] and also another book [Human Devolution a Vedic Alternative To Darwin's Theory by M.Cremo.]

Cheating science with its dishonest agenda of protecting Darwins Theory / will ignore and dismiss any knowledge that challenges Darwins Theory / and thus rejects any and all knowledge coming from the timeless Vedas.

It makes for an embarrassing situation when science unearths artifacts that support the Vedas.

Are you aware that there are hundreds and possibly thousands of artifacts that support the Vedas / but sadly theses artifacts never see the light of day because they are purposely hidden from view and locked away from public scrutiny.

Originally posted by Dasa
The Vedas have been telling the world that humans have been populating this earth for hundreds of millions of years.

This knowledge about extreme human antiquity has also been discussed and documented in the book [ Forbidden Archeology By M. Cremo.] and also another book [Human Devolution a Vedic Alternative To Darwin's Theory by M.Cremo.]

Cheating scienc ...[text shortened]... e light of day because they are purposely hidden from view and locked away from public scrutiny.

2.8 million years is not hundreds of millions of years. Besides I thought the Vedas had the world being destroyed every 4.32 million years or so, which would seem to rule out a continuous lineage of humans across cycles even if humans exist in every cycle.

Originally posted by sonhouse
So in your mythology, A and E taught each other to talk? What about the rest of the crew, you do realize there were more there in your alleged garden besides A&E.

So the tower caused them to scatter. So why does the DNA evidence show migrations from Siberia south and so forth? Where is your DNA evidence everyone started at one place? That would stick out ...[text shortened]... ten people the DNA evidence would stick out like a sore thumb like I said. That is a FACT JACK.

It's already been hypothesized that man, as a species, came crawling out of one area in the Rift Valley in Africa to spread over the earth. Even man had to start somewhere. Language is only one reason why we are not given verifiable evidence of the early events of the Bible. Those place names would not have the same name then as when they were written about in Moses' time. And the confusion of languages at the Tower of Babel ensured that even oral traditions would be broken.

Originally posted by Dasa
The Vedas have been telling the world that humans have been populating this earth for hundreds of millions of years.

This knowledge about extreme human antiquity has also been discussed and documented in the book [ Forbidden Archeology By M. Cremo.] and also another book [Human Devolution a Vedic Alternative To Darwin's Theory by M.Cremo.]

Cheating scienc ...[text shortened]... e light of day because they are purposely hidden from view and locked away from public scrutiny.

Cremo has been discredited numerous times. I wouldn't call him a reliable source.

False religion is false.

Originally posted by Suzianne
It's already been hypothesized that man, as a species, came crawling out of one area in the Rift Valley in Africa to spread over the earth. Even man had to start somewhere. Language is only one reason why we are not given verifiable evidence of the early events of the Bible. Those place names would not have the same name then as when they were written ab ...[text shortened]... confusion of languages at the Tower of Babel ensured that even oral traditions would be broken.

However, the Holy Bible was inspired by God. 😏

Originally posted by Dasa
The Vedas have been telling the world that humans have been populating this earth for hundreds of millions of years.

How do you jump from crores of decades of mythical heroes to hundreds of millions of real humans? Don't over-estimate the scientific contents of your brawl stories, boy.

Originally posted by DeepThought
2.8 million years is not hundreds of millions of years. Besides I thought the Vedas had the world being destroyed every 4.32 million years or so, which would seem to rule out a continuous lineage of humans across cycles even if humans exist in every cycle.

Please consider this sloka for there are many more that support the age of the earth and cosmos

Remember that the earth is in a cycle of destruction, maintenance and then creation again..............and this goes on eternally.

At this moment we are just past the middle of a 311 trillion year cycle.


ahasra-yuga-paryantam
ahar yad brahmaṇo viduḥ
rātriḿ yuga-sahasrāntāḿ
te 'ho-rātra-vidothat janāḥ
SYNONYMS

sahasra — one thousand; yuga — millenniums; paryantam — including; ahaḥ — day; yat — that which; brahmaṇaḥ — of Brahmā; viduḥ — they know; rātrim — night; yuga — millenniums; sahasra-antām — similarly, ending after one thousand; te — they; ahaḥ-rātra — day and night; vidaḥ — who understand; janāḥ — people.
TRANSLATION

By human calculation, a thousand ages taken together form the duration of Brahmā's one day. And such also is the duration of his night.
PURPORT

The duration of the material universe is limited. It is manifested in cycles of kalpas. A kalpa is a day of Brahmā, and one day of Brahmā consists of a thousand cycles of four yugas, or ages: Satya, Tretā, Dvāpara and Kali. The cycle of Satya is characterized by virtue, wisdom and religion, there being practically no ignorance and vice, and the yuga lasts 1,728,000 years. In the Tretā-yuga vice is introduced, and this yuga lasts 1,296,000 years. In the Dvāpara-yuga there is an even greater decline in virtue and religion, vice increasing, and this yuga lasts 864,000 years. And finally in Kali-yuga (the yuga we have now been experiencing over the past 5,000 years) there is an abundance of strife, ignorance, irreligion and vice, true virtue being practically nonexistent, and this yuga lasts 432,000 years. In Kali-yuga vice increases to such a point that at the termination of the yuga the Supreme Lord Himself appears as the Kalki avatāra, vanquishes the demons, saves His devotees, and commences another Satya-yuga. Then the process is set rolling again. These four yugas, rotating a thousand times, comprise one day of Brahmā, and the same number comprise one night. Brahmā lives one hundred of such "years" and then dies. These "hundred years" by earth calculations total to 311 trillion and 40 billion earth years. By these calculations the life of Brahmā seems fantastic and interminable, but from the viewpoint of eternity it is as brief as a lightning flash. In the Causal Ocean there are innumerable Brahmās rising and disappearing like bubbles in the Atlantic. Brahmā and his creation are all part of the material universe, and therefore they are in constant flux.
In the material universe not even Brahmā is free from the process of birth, old age, disease and death. Brahmā, however, is directly engaged in the service of the Supreme Lord in the management of this universe — therefore he at once attains liberation. Elevated sannyāsīs are promoted to Brahmā's particular planet, Brahmaloka, which is the highest planet in the material universe and which survives all the heavenly planets in the upper strata of the planetary system, but in due course Brahmā and all the inhabitants of Brahmaloka are subject to death, according to the law of material nature.
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Originally posted by Dasa
Please consider this sloka for there are many more that support the age of the earth and cosmos

Remember that the earth is in a cycle of destruction, maintenance and then creation again..............and this goes on eternally.

At this moment we are just past the middle of a 311 trillion year cycle.


ahasra-yuga-paryantam
ahar yad brahmaṇo viduḥ
...[text shortened]... nhabitants of Brahmaloka are subject to death, according to the law of material nature.
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These ages are even worse than the evolutionists. That is ridiculous.

Originally posted by RJHinds
These ages are even worse than the evolutionists. That is ridiculous.

What is truly ridiculous is a 6000 yr old cosmos.

Originally posted by Dasa
What is truly ridiculous is a 6000 yr old cosmos.

Well, that is just a close approximation. 😏

Originally posted by Dasa
Please consider this sloka for there are many more that support the age of the earth and cosmos

Remember that the earth is in a cycle of destruction, maintenance and then creation again..............and this goes on eternally.

At this moment we are just past the middle of a 311 trillion year cycle.


ahasra-yuga-paryantam
ahar yad brahmaṇo viduḥ
...[text shortened]... nhabitants of Brahmaloka are subject to death, according to the law of material nature.
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I make that 315 trillion 576 billion. Assuming that a Brahmā year consists of 365.25 days. The figure you gave assumes a year of 364.62963 days (according to the calculator on my computer). Although compared with the scientific cosmology the life span is about right, we'd expect the last stars to burn out about that time after which nothing particularly interesting is expected to happen. The major difference is that you have the universe about 150 trillion years old, whereas in the scientific narrative it's around 13.8 billion years old.

Originally posted by DeepThought
I make that 315 trillion 576 billion. Assuming that a Brahmā year consists of 365.25 days. The figure you gave assumes a year of 364.62963 days (according to the calculator on my computer). Although compared with the scientific cosmology the life span is about right, we'd expect the last stars to burn out about that time after which nothing particular ...[text shortened]... 150 trillion years old, whereas in the scientific narrative it's around 13.8 billion years old.

One thing Dasa and I have in common is that we both agree that the universe is nowhere near 14 billion years old. 😏

Originally posted by RJHinds
One thing Dasa and I have in common is that we both agree that the universe is nowhere near 14 billion years old. 😏

Just like the mathematician and a statistician who went hunting. The math dude took a shot at the deer, missed by ten feet on the left.

The statistician took a shot and missed by ten feet on the right.

GOT HIM, he said.