Originally posted by asromacalcioYou and a lot of very gullible people, perhaps.
Sure, I believe it will, but I and a lot of other very spiritual people belive that 2012 and the period leading up to it represent the most dynamic period in this planet's history. Quite how and why or what is another matter, but it's big news to very many people.
Originally posted by David CIt would be great if there were an astrologer here who could say something meaningful (in astrological terms) about this date, which at the very least shows that the Mayans and the Babylonians were on the same page, something I find remarkable in itself.
2012 is the year on the Gregorian Calendar that marks the end of the 5th sun in Mayan Cosmology. In practical terms, it is also the first year that we can note that we have actually entered the first degree (of 30) of the Age of Aquarius (having left the Age of Pisces).
Originally posted by The Chess ExpressVery interesting and intelligent observation. Thanks.
As I understand it the date 12/21/12 is supposed to be the end of the Mayan calendar. This may simply mean that they finally realized that they had planned far enough ahead. I’m not sure if the Mayans ever intended it to be a doomsday prediction.
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Originally posted by rwingettCome on, as far as the whole market for spiritual 'products' is concerned there is a mass of public naivety and gullibility involved, but as for global events, how can you possibly say that this isn't a very powerful period? OK, not the first, not the last, but there seem to be so many more disasters, natural or otherwise, we have climate change starting to become impossible to doubt, terrorism, political instability in many parts of the world etc etc.
You and a lot of very gullible people, perhaps.
I'm not talking candle holders here, some things are just true.
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Originally posted by asromacalcioCan you give any valid stats on natural disasters ? I am not aware of any increases. Casualties due to disasters does increase with population and therefore with time. There is some link between storm severity and global warming but the effects of that started well before 2000.
Come on, as far as the whole market for spiritual 'products' is concerned there is a mass of public naivety and gullibility involved, but as for global events, how can you possibly say that this isn't a very powerful period? OK, not the first, not the last, but there seem to be so many more disasters, natural or otherwise, we have climate change startin ...[text shortened]... rts of the world etc etc.
I'm not talking candle holders here, some things are just true.
we have climate change starting to become impossible to doubt,
I did not doubt climate change 20 years ago, and neither did most of the world. The Kyoto protocol was signed in 2000.
Some people who are financially involved still deny climate change.
When we look at worldwide events nothing yet beats the two world wars coupled with the flu virus that wiped out more people than the first world war. Predicters of doom always have blindspots.
Originally posted by twhiteheadGood post, and no I can't answer all your questions, but to clear up, I'm not prediciting doom nor the End (capital E), but change. It is quite certain in my mind that many of these changes began some time ago. 2012 is where I believe things are headed, and no, I can't say why.
Can you give any valid stats on natural disasters ? I am not aware of any increases. Casualties due to disasters does increase with population and therefore with time. There is some link between storm severity and global warming but the effects of that started well before 2000.
[b]we have climate change starting to become impossible to doubt,
I d ...[text shortened]... that wiped out more people than the first world war. Predicters of doom always have blindspots.[/b]