1. Standard memberRBHILL
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    19 Jan '15 18:00
    http://www.sermonaudio.com/playpopupvideo.asp?SID=618081359299
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    19 Jan '15 21:50
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    http://www.sermonaudio.com/playpopupvideo.asp?SID=618081359299
    With whom?

    Why is it "great"

    What is it about.

    Why should readers be interested?
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    20 Jan '15 00:031 edit
    Originally posted by divegeester
    With whom?

    Why is it "great"

    What is it about.

    Why should readers be interested?
    RBHILL's liking it is enough for me...

    Complete above sentence.
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    20 Jan '15 00:45
    Originally posted by JS357
    RBHILL's liking it is enough for me...

    Complete above sentence.
    to walk the other way.
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    20 Jan '15 01:18
    Originally posted by JS357
    RBHILL's liking it is enough for me...
    ...to deduce it's going to be an example of confirmation bias.
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    20 Jan '15 05:482 edits
    Originally posted by JS357
    RBHILL's liking it is enough for me...
    ...to know it will be yet another unreferenced link to a spurious webcast of unspecified duration through which he will expect me to sit while my life ticks softly away.
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    20 Jan '15 06:11
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    http://www.sermonaudio.com/playpopupvideo.asp?SID=618081359299
    Ok I watched the video almost in its entirety which is 9 minutes.

    What I liked:
    The "interviewer" used some good (albeit predictable) scriptural based ideas to appeal the to the "interviewee".
    The interviewee was respectful, patient and polite
    The video wasn't too long
    I thought the interviewer was a pleasant sincere man

    Not so good:
    It wasn't an "interview" is was a mini sermon
    8 minutes of the 9 was the "interviewer" talking at the "interviewee"
    The interviewer asked a question and then despite condescendingly saying "speak" he kept interrupting the interviewee
    Only the "interviewer" was wearing a microphone!

    Christians are salespeople, the first rule of good sales is to shut up and listen to the customer.
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    20 Jan '15 08:02
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Christians are salespeople, the first rule of good sales is to shut up and listen to the customer.
    Scaring the living daylights out of the customer also works quite well. Politicians use that tactic on their voters all the time. So do gun sales men.
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    20 Jan '15 08:21
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Scaring the living daylights out of the customer also works quite well. Politicians use that tactic on their voters all the time. So do gun sales men.
    Indeed, in fact certain competitors in my field have been (quite successfully) using fear as a sales tactic for many years.

    Other than the obvious moral abomination, it's one of the reasons I am against the "burning in external hell" thing.
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    20 Jan '15 11:39
    Another popular sales tactic that I see a few Christians using, is outright lying about the product.
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    20 Jan '15 21:05
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Another popular sales tactic that I see a few Christians using, is outright lying about the product.
    Give examples other then God not existing?
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    20 Jan '15 21:191 edit
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    Give examples other then God not existing?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District

    specifically:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District#Allegations_of_perjury

    After the trial, there were calls for the defendants accused of not presenting their case honestly to be put on trial for committing perjury. "Witnesses either testified inconsistently, or lied outright under oath on several occasions," [JS clarification: presiding judge] Jones wrote. "The inescapable truth is that both [Alan] Bonsell and [William] Buckingham lied at their January 3, 2005 depositions. ... Bonsell repeatedly failed to testify in a truthful manner. ... Defendants have unceasingly attempted in vain to distance themselves from their own actions and statements, which culminated in repetitious, untruthful testimony." An editorial in the York Daily Record described their behaviour as both ironic and sinful, saying that the "unintelligent designers of this fiasco should not walk away unscathed".[41]
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    20 Jan '15 22:54
    Originally posted by JS357
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District

    specifically:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District#Allegations_of_perjury

    After the trial, there were calls for the defendants accused of not presenting their case honestly to be put on trial for committing perjury. "Witnesses either testified incons ...[text shortened]... ul, saying that the "unintelligent designers of this fiasco should not walk away unscathed".[41]
    I was actually referring to a religious experience this doesn't really qualify!
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    20 Jan '15 23:58
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    I was actually referring to a religious experience this doesn't really qualify!
    Actually it is twhitehead's call on what HE was referring to. What I cited was knowingly "selling" Christian creationism under the guise of intelligent design, then lying about it on the stand.
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