17 Aug 11
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Originally posted by moon1969I think the moon was created on the first day of creation because Genesis
A 200 million year discrepancy? 4.4 billion years or 4.6 billion years?
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/bizarre/7701151.html
What day did God create the moon?
says, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." And at
this time the earth is described as formless and void and that there was
darkness over the waters. I believe the heavens include all the physical
bodies, including the moon. This could have been done just before the
first day, however, since it then says God made light and divided the day
from the night and this was the evening and the morning, one day.
The sun, moon, and stars are not actually mentioned until the fourth day.
Most Bible scholars believe this is the day that they become visible for a
viewer on earth because of the clearing of the atmosphere or what the
Holy Bible calls an expanse or heaven in the midst of the waters above
and below it, that was made on the second day. But some believe this
means the sun, moon, and stars were not created until the fourth day.
However, that would mean the the heavens that were created in the
beginning did not include the sun, moon, and stars. I don't believe that
would make sense, because it also says that they were created to give
light on the earth day and night and to be for signs, for seasons, for days,
and for years. My logical mind tells me that they had to be created no
later than the first day. What do you think?
17 Aug 11
Originally posted by RJHindsSo was the second day 4.4 billion years or 4.6 billion years ago?
I think the moon was created on the first day of creation because Genesis
says, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." And at
this time the earth is described as formless and void and that there was
darkness over the waters. I believe the heavens include all the physical
bodies, including the moon. This could have been done just bef ...[text shortened]... l mind tells me that they had to be created no
later than the first day. What do you think?
17 Aug 11
Originally posted by moon1969OK, I must have missed something... why is a debate over the age of the moon going on in the Spirituality forum?
A 200 million year discrepancy? 4.4 billion years or 4.6 billion years?
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/bizarre/7701151.html
What day did God create the moon?
(And the moon isn't even full right now 🙂 )
17 Aug 11
Originally posted by PhlabibitI believe these days were 24 hour days as we understand a day today.
So was the second day 4.4 billion years or 4.6 billion years ago?
The exact time is hard to determine but I would give an estimate that
the second day was about 10,000 years ago. So if the moon was
created on the first day then I don't see how it could be more than
about 10,000 years old. The only way it could be much older than that
is for it to have been created before the first day of creation. I don't
believe that is the case, however. Therefore I believe these datings
of billions of years is way off and something in wrong with the dating
method even though the scientist think they are within about 200
millions years of being exact.
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18 Aug 11
Originally posted by RJHindsWhat about the objects we see which are much more than 10 thousand light years away? If they're only 10,000 years old, how do we see them?
I believe these days were 24 hour days as we understand a day today.
The exact time is hard to determine but I would give an estimate that
the second day was about 10,000 years ago. So if the moon was
created on the first day then I don't see how it could be more than
about 10,000 years old. The only way it could be much older than that
is for it to h ...[text shortened]... thod even though the scientist think they are within about 200
millions years of being exact.
18 Aug 11
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Originally posted by RJHindsWhy do creationists always assume that God made things in such a way that accurately dating the creation would be possible? If we don't know how he made the moon, would we be able to date it accurately? If he made it 'as is' then of course our dating methods wont work, because we are assuming that the moon came about via natural processes. Once the supernatural is involved anything goes and science cannot be used.
Therefore I believe these datings of billions of years is way off and something in wrong with the dating method even though the scientist think they are within about 200 millions years of being exact.
But it still begs the question "why go to all the trouble of putting the exact proportions of elements etc into the rocks to give it the appearance of greater age than it really is?". This is similar to the starlight issue. Why create a whole history of an imaginary past universe that never existed?
And lastly, why do creationists not apply the same argument to fossils? Why don't they just state that God planted the fossils in the ground upon creation?
18 Aug 11
Originally posted by twhiteheadI believe in science and I believe science will one day get this
Why do creationists always assume that God made things in such a way that accurately dating the creation would be possible? If we don't know how he made the moon, would we be able to date it accurately? If he made it 'as is' then of course our dating methods wont work, because we are assuming that the moon came about via natural processes. Once the supern ...[text shortened]... ssils? Why don't they just state that God planted the fossils in the ground upon creation?
dating thing solved when the right God inspired scientist comes
along.
18 Aug 11
Originally posted by RJHindsBut science cannot possibly investigate the supernatural by definition.
I believe in science and I believe science will one day get this
dating thing solved when the right God inspired scientist comes
along.
And if you believe science must be God inspired, then you don't understand what science is.