1. SubscriberAThousandYoung
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    22 Feb '10 09:25
    He is such a fascinating character! A handsome, mighty, arrogant jerk who revels in war but when faced with an equal generally loses.

    True, Ares was brave and strong—but he was also argumentative, impulsive, bloodthirsty, and destructive. In conflicts, the god of war chose sides capriciously and sometimes switched sides in the middle of a war. Ares simply took pleasure in the bloodshed, slaughter, and wanton destruction of war.

    Ironically, the god of war was not so skillful as a warrior:

    Level-headed, disciplined Athena bested him twice.
    Otus and Ephialtes, the giant sons of Poseidon, also defeated him. Indeed, they humiliated him, trapping him inside a bronze jar for over a year before Hermes managed to release him.
    Heracles (see The Labors of Heracles) knocked the god of war off his feet four times in a single battle and ultimately forced him to flee from the battlefield.
    Diomedes stabbed him with a spear and sent him running from the battlefield outside Troy.

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    22 Feb '10 09:29
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    He is such a fascinating character! A handsome, mighty, arrogant jerk who revels in war but when faced with an equal generally loses.

    True, Ares was brave and strong—but he was also argumentative, impulsive, bloodthirsty, and destructive. In conflicts, the god of war chose sides capriciously and sometimes switched sides in the middle of a war. A ...[text shortened]...

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    what is so fascinating about him? is failure fascinating now?
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    24 Feb '10 06:51
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    what is so fascinating about him? is failure fascinating now?
    It can be! What's fascinating is that he's the God of bloodthirsty, chaotic warfare and yet he's so bad at it (for a god anyway).
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    24 Feb '10 08:50
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    It can be! What's fascinating is that he's the God of bloodthirsty, chaotic warfare and yet he's so bad at it (for a god anyway).
    no he is not. he is good at it. he is bad at anything else. he is like most other greek gods, basically humans with flaws and supernatural abilities that live forever and answer to mostly nobody. not fascinating.

    unless you want to redefine your view on fascinating
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    24 Feb '10 10:32
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    no he is not. he is good at it. he is bad at anything else. he is like most other greek gods, basically humans with flaws and supernatural abilities that live forever and answer to mostly nobody. not fascinating.

    unless you want to redefine your view on fascinating
    Maybe he should ask you for permission to be fascinated? 😕
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    24 Feb '10 10:36
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    He is such a fascinating character! A handsome, mighty, arrogant jerk who revels in war but when faced with an equal generally loses.

    True, Ares was brave and strong—but he was also argumentative, impulsive, bloodthirsty, and destructive. In conflicts, the god of war chose sides capriciously and sometimes switched sides in the middle of a war. A ...[text shortened]...

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    It's interesting how the Greeks had two gods of war. Athena being the idealized version of warfare and Ares probably much closer to what real warfare is. Perhaps one to justify the war and one to be the scapegoat for the excesses of war...
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    24 Feb '10 10:411 edit
    Originally posted by Palynka
    It's interesting how the Greeks had two gods of war. Athena being the idealized version of warfare and Ares probably much closer to what real warfare is. Perhaps one to justify the war and one to be the scapegoat for the excesses of war...
    I think the distinction was strategy versus violence, brains versus brawn; the Athenians obviously considering themselves smarter than the rest.

    The Spartans' chief gods were Ares and Artemis, Aeginaea; 'the name means either huntress of chamois, or the wielder of the javelin'.
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    24 Feb '10 10:49
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    I think the distinction was strategy versus violence, brains versus brawn; the Athenians obviously considering themselves smarter than the rest.

    The Spartans' chief gods were Ares and Artemis, Aeginaea; 'the name means either huntress of chamois, or the wielder of the javelin'.
    That's the classic view, I guess. But the side-switching of Ares may be revealing. Of course, the Athenians would see themselves as righteous and so Athena would be behind them, but how to justify atrocity in war? Simple, just add a brainless side-switching thug. I'm, of course, making this all up as I go but it's an interesting thought.
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    24 Feb '10 12:17
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Maybe he should ask you for permission to be fascinated? 😕
    you miss the point. i asked him why.

    also this is a debate. i have the right to disagree with his statement
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    24 Feb '10 12:47
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    you miss the point. i asked him why.

    also this is a debate. i have the right to disagree with his statement
    Not in the post I quoted, which was your reply to his answer on your original question.

    The right? LOL!
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    24 Feb '10 13:04
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Not in the post I quoted, which was your reply to his answer on your original question.

    The right? LOL!
    i have trouble untwisting this phrase. could you rephrase it?

    no hurry though. prolly not important
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    24 Feb '10 13:09
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    i have trouble untwisting this phrase. could you rephrase it?

    no hurry though. prolly not important
    Your question -> his answer -> your reply to his answer -> my comment on your reply.

    Simple!
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    24 Feb '10 14:33
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Your question -> his answer -> your reply to his answer -> my comment on your reply.

    Simple!
    me: what is so fascinating about him? is failure fascinating now?
    him: It can be! What's fascinating is that he's the God of bloodthirsty, chaotic warfare and yet he's so bad at it (for a god anyway).
    me: no he is not. he is good at it. he is bad at anything else. he is like most other greek gods, basically humans with flaws and supernatural abilities that live forever and answer to mostly nobody. not fascinating.
    unless you want to redefine your view on fascinating
    some troll not adding anything to the discussion: Maybe he should ask you for permission to be fascinated?


    you mean like this? ok, seems simple now indeed. now refresh my memory as to what your problem is?
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    24 Feb '10 14:381 edit
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    you mean like this? ok, seems simple now indeed. now refresh my memory as to what your problem is?
    If it's simple, you'd find out yourself, wouldn't you?

    As for trolling, I already contributed much more than your whinging about what ATY finds fascinating.
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    24 Feb '10 23:24
    Originally posted by Palynka
    If it's simple, you'd find out yourself, wouldn't you?

    As for trolling, I already contributed much more than your whinging about what ATY finds fascinating.
    glad we had this chat, we accomplished a lot.
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