Originally posted by EcstremeVenomIt's not atually in the bible.
i dont remember that in the bible.
The bible makes no reference to dates or times - or little anyway. Which kind of makes sense if you accept that it was written by many people over an extended period of time and went through many changes. Dates would've got in the way of telling good stories.
What the 6,000 years or 10,000 years that people are referring to are some calculations made by a guy a few hundred years ago - Paley I think, maybe in the 1700s or 1800s?
He tallied up all the generations that were listed in some of the biblical stories - from Adam through Noah and Abraham and Moses and so on to Jesus - added 1700 years or so for good measure and got a figure of 6,000 years or something like it.
Other people have done the same with varying results depending on how long each generation is and which generations you count - remember the bible isn't one book but many, so there are quite a few contradictions.
Clearly doesn't match the scientific interpretations of geology, radiometric dating, palaeontology and evolution so there's the tension.
Originally posted by amannionIt was Bishop James Ussher, not Paley, who came up with that one. In 1650 he calculated that Earth was created at nightfall preceding 23 October, 4004 BC. He was only off by several billion years, or so.
It's not atually in the bible.
The bible makes no reference to dates or times - or little anyway. Which kind of makes sense if you accept that it was written by many people over an extended period of time and went through many changes. Dates would've got in the way of telling good stories.
What the 6,000 years or 10,000 years that people are referring t ...[text shortened]... tations of geology, radiometric dating, palaeontology and evolution so there's the tension.
Originally posted by rwingettWhy does nobody realise that we can also infer the nature of the former owner of said watch. We can also infer that the watch is either lost or useless or the owner thinks that the beach is a good place for it.
Yes. William Paley. If we find a watch on the beach, we can infer the existence of a watchmaker. And by the nature of the product, we can infer the nature of the creator.
Or so the argument goes.
The creater of the watch was probably some machines owned by a business man in China who copied the design off someone else. The usuall assumption that the watch maker is some highly intelligent painstakingly carefull designer with thick glasses and some tiny screwdrivers is false.
Originally posted by amannionFor one thing it give peoples ages throughout the O.T. and we know that it was about 800 years from the last book to Christ.
It's not atually in the bible.
The bible makes no reference to dates or times - or little anyway. Which kind of makes sense if you accept that it was written by many people over an extended period of time and went through many changes. Dates would've got in the way of telling good stories.
What the 6,000 years or 10,000 years that people are referring t ...[text shortened]... tations of geology, radiometric dating, palaeontology and evolution so there's the tension.
Originally posted by RBHILLWhy are you ignoring Xanthos' questions? Why did God create a world which looks to every investigator to be around 4.5 billion years old? Why did he make people inquistive enough, or smart enough, to find out?
For one thing it give peoples ages throughout the O.T. and we know that it was about 800 years from the last book to Christ.
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Originally posted by scottishinnzAnd the funny answer I saw in another thread somewhere was that God has a different sense of 'time'. When it was stated 6 days in the bible, it might have meant a much longer time than the 'time' that we know. Oh how convenient! Always the tendency to twist an ordinary word with such a straight-forward meaning to mean another thing, just to uphold the 'accuracy' of the holy book.
Why are you ignoring Xanthos' questions? Why did God create a world which looks to every investigator to be around 4.5 billion years old? Why did he make people inquistive enough, or smart enough, to find out?
Originally posted by ckoh1965It is funny how some christians who think the 'weeks' in Daniel 9 are 'weeks of years' will not admit that the 'days' of creation might not be literal days.
And the funny answer I saw in another thread somewhere was that God has a different sense of 'time'. When it was stated 6 days in the bible, it might have meant a much longer time than the 'time' that we know. Oh how convenient! Always the tendency to twist an ordinary word with such a straight-forward meaning to mean another thing, just to uphold the 'accuracy' of the holy book.
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Originally posted by RBHILLSo, you are believing the bible because the bible tells you that god tells you to believe it?
2 Peter 3:8
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
2 Timothy 3:16a
All Scripture is God-breathed