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For anyone interested in interested in treating chess as a spiritual metaphor:
http://www.jewish-holiday.com/kabchess.html
http://www.jewish-holiday.com/kabchess.html
Originally posted by Bosse de NageWhen the Apostles first started as a clan we took a lot of goading and sometimes heat because it was generally thought that we must be a bunch of fringe lunatics. That would not be hard to understand as when you read the forums, well let me not get negative. Anyway, I suggested that chess was a "spiritual game" in that it was a game of unlimited possibilities. It was also much like life in that we often must give up pieces to find ourselves in a better "winning position." I also maintained that the core of the clan system, and perhpas the site, was the idea of community, which to me is a spiritual value. I accepted anyone who wanted to be in my clan regardless of their creed or affiliation or lack thereof. My clan has been comprised of some very devout and dedicated Christians, some of whom have been trained clergy. I have had some who have never darkened a church door. I hope that helps.
I was quite surprised when nothing kabbalistic turned up on my thread search. Can you direct me to the fruitful outcomes of your discussions?
Originally posted by Bosse de NageI'll need to do some readin on the Kabbalah and try not to get my my feelins about Madonna to pollute my thinkin. Have a good day.
I respect what you are saying. You have a positive perspective.
I thought the Kabbalah might appeal to the less confrontational. I have read nothing of interest to me in this spiritual forum. Out of interest, have the Brothers ever discussed the Kabbalah itself?
As far as your visitor is concerned, you do seem to have turned the (virtual) chessboard into a tool for spiritual growth! I doff my hat.
Originally posted by kirksey957Madonna aside--
I'll need to do some readin on the Kabbalah and try not to get my my feelins about Madonna to pollute my thinkin. Have a good day.
Originally posted by Paul DiracVery good! But I think if it were "really" there, Moses deLeon would've "found" it and put it in the Zohar. (Of course, it might be hidden there too!) 😉
Encoded within the Pentateuch is a 58-move game of chess played by Yahweh and the Serpent, complete with analysis by Moses. You just need to know how to tease the information out of the text.
Brucha at Yah, Shekhinah, shefa ha olamim![/b]Now it appears that the Kabbalah would have all chess players avoid anyone by the name of Tess:
Originally posted by Bosse de NagePlease don't be offended, since I don't know you, and it's only so that I'm not confused that I ask--
Now it appears that the Kabbalah would have all chess players avoid anyone by the name of Tess:
"Besides, the letter ח "Chess" is at thy side, and when joined, this unity, that is, the combination of the "Chess" ח ...[text shortened]... es)."
http://www.kabbalah.info/engkab/zohar/TETH_CHESS.htm
Is this a pun?It is a terrible disingenuous pun. "The wages of Sin is Chess". My knowledge of Hebrew is limited to what I've gleaned picking my way through Gesenius' Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon of the Old Testament. What have I learned? That a literal interpretation of any English version of the Old Testament is a fool's game.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageLOL! You nailed me! I am so terrible at puns--and Hebrew is, I think full of them. (I do now see the sin/shin pun!)
It is a terrible disingenuous pun. "The wages of Sin is Chess". My knowledge of Hebrew is limited to what I've gleaned picking my way through Gesenius' Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon of the Old Testament. What have I learned? That a literal interpretation of any English version of the Old Testament is a fool's game.
Kabbalah? I'm at the very beginnin ...[text shortened]... talk about something light-hearted and playful in this terribly serious forum.