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@divegeester saidI was going to say something to be funny, but I knew what you meant. 😛
This should have read “denomination” not “demonisation”
Sorry
@divegeester saidI was going to say something to be funny, but I knew what you meant. 😛
This should have read “denomination” not “demonisation”
Sorry
@sonship saidYou get more engagement from FMF and myself than all of the other posters put together. I suspect that many of the challenges either FMF or myself bring to your threads are also on the minds of other readers who either don’t want to appear to be aligned with one of us, or simply don’t care whatever it is you are waffling on about.
I have not yet paid serious attention to posts of Divegeester or FMF because I know that they only wish to be cynically contrarian, And the SAME contrarian posters gets old to me. They always follow me around and are usually the first to put in their contrarian, cynical, innuendos.
@secondson saidJohn 3:13 makes clear Enoch wasn't raptured to heaven.
Sir, can you clarify the point you're making?
John 3:13 makes clear Enoch wasn't raptured to heaven.
Enoch walked with God in the Old Testament.
Suddenly Enoch could not be found anywhere.
God vindicated Enoch by snatching him off of the earth.
He was raptured.
Like Enoch was not found because he walked with God, so those heeding to go on the learn to walk in Christ will be taken.
Remember Enoch who walked with God.
We must through patience and practice learn to be like Enoch who was taken by God off the scene because he walked with God every day.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidOf course, some Christians will dance around accepting this.
John 3:13 makes clear Enoch wasn't raptured to heaven.
Of course, some Christians will dance around accepting this.
"Remember therefore how you have received and heard, and keep it and repent.
If therefore you will not watch I will come as a thief and you shall by no means know at what hour I will come upon you." (Rev. 3:3)
"Whoever seeks to preserve HIS soul-life will lose it, and whoever losses it will preserve it alive.
I tell you, In that night there will be two on one bed, the one will be taken and the other will be left.
There will be two women grinding together; the one will be taken but the other will be left.
Two men will be in the field, one will be taken and the other will be left." (Luke 17:33-36)
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThat is correct.
John 3:13 makes clear Enoch wasn't raptured to heaven.
John 3:13 makes clear Enoch wasn't raptured to heaven.
"If therefore you were raised together with Christ, seek the things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God.
Set your mind on the things which are above, not on the things which are on the earth. " (Col. 3:1,2)
You’re dead right there!
Nor is “secretive” in the bible.
And they did not know that judgment was coming until the flood came and took all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
At that time two men will be in the field; one is taken and one is left.
Two women will be grinding at the mill; one is taken and one is left.
Watch therefore, FOR YOU DO NOT KNOW ON WHAT DAY YOUR LORD COMES. "(Matt. 24:39-42)
"But know this, that if the householder had KNOWN in which watch the thief was coming, he would have watched and would not have allowed his house to be broken into.
For this reason you also be ready, because at an hour when you do not expect it, the Son of Man is coming." (Matt. 24:43,44)
@sonship said"So when the first secretive rapture occurs the majority of Christians on the earth will be caught by surprise and left on the earth.
So when the first secretive rapture occurs the majority of Christians on the earth will be caught by surprise and left on the earth.
But they are still eternally secure in their salvation.
If we are Christians neglecting to learn to feed upon Jesus and walk in Jesus at that time, don't you think we will consider the error of our ways if other Christians are suddenly re ...[text shortened]... surely will seek revival. For they will notice that they are on the cusp of the turning of the age.
This is where you lose me sonship.
1. First secretive rapture? There's no secret. I don't see how it's a secret. We know it will happen. We just don't know when. There's no first or second or third rapture. There's only one.
But know this, that if the householder had known in which watch the thief was coming, he would have watched and would not have allowed his house to be broken into.
For this reason you also be ready, BECAUSE IN AN HOUR WHEN YOU DO NOT EXPECT IT, the Son of Man comes." (Matt. 24,43,44)