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    Originally posted by JS357
    I did not have sex with that woman.
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    Ennui, Angst, Losing Perspective?
    You've come to the right place.
    Rest easy, you're among friends.
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    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
    I did not have sex with that woman.
    I wish I had sex with that woman, because I am too old now.
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    ” If we shadows have offended,
    Think but this, and all is mended,
    That you have but slumber’d here
    While these visions did appear.
    And this weak and idle theme,
    No more yielding but a dream,
    Gentles, do not reprehend:
    if you pardon, we will mend:
    And, as I am an honest Puck,
    If we have unearned luck
    Now to ‘scape the serpent’s tongue,
    We will make amends ere long;
    Else the Puck a liar call;
    So, good night unto you all.
    Give me your hands, if we be friends,
    And Robin shall restore amends.”

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    30 Jan '13 16:311 edit
    Originally posted by JS357
    Sorry about that. Good comments, tho.
  12. Hmmm . . .
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    Originally posted by JS357
    Image of the always implicate
    unmanifest ground—
    from which, in which, and of which
    all is—and so we are.

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    The explicate is the already-manifest: the already-engendered figure/form/existent. The Gestalt may be fully manifest; but, epistemically at least, it seems that there is always still an implicate ground—as expressed in the four-fold Buddhist formula:

    Form is emptiness,
    and emptiness is form;
    form is also form,
    and emptiness, emptiness—

    This might also be valid ontologically (even if the implicate ground is always fully manifest in engendered phenomena)—especially in a process ontology, in which the ex-pression of phenomena is dynamic and changing. The ground is the engendering principle of the process (figure/ground) Gestalt. This would not be far off from the Stoics conception of logos as theos, manifest via pneuma—which they considered as a physical phusis force (in their “physics”, sometimes associated with fire, sometimes with air-fire). Jewish kabbalah (as part of the traditional Oral Torah) is similar to this conception as well. The explicate phenomena are transient; the implicate ground is (except if one can conceive of an absolute nihil) not.

    This what I mean by (at the risk of redundancy) "gestaltic nondualism" (pantheism).

    Some writers (such as in the Zohar) use paradox to indicate the (ineffable) implicate: something like describing your blank as “an imageless image”.
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    For all we know
    We may never meet again
    Before you go
    Make this moment sweet again

    We won't say goodnight
    Until the last minute
    I'll hold out my hand
    And my heart will be in it

    For all we know
    This may only be a dream
    We come and we go
    Like the ripples of a stream

    So love me, love me tonight
    tomorrow was made for some
    tomorrow may never come
    for all we know


    --Sam Lewis & J Fred Coots

    It rained during the night
    And two puddles formed in the dark
    And began chatting.
    One said,

    “It is so nice to at last be upon this earth
    And to meet you as well,

    But what will happen when
    The brilliant Sun comes
    And turns us back into spirit again?”

    Dear ones,
    Enjoy the night as much as you can.

    Why ever trouble your heart with flight,
    When you have just arrived
    And your body is so full of warm desires.
    And look:

    So many meadows of soft hair are
    Planted upon you.

    Why ever trouble yourself with God
    When He is so unjudging
    And kind

    Unless you are blessed and live
    Near the circle of a
    Perfect One?


    --Hafiz (trans. Ladinsky)
  14. Hmmm . . .
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    Originally posted by LemonJello
    For all we know
    We may never meet again
    Before you go
    Make this moment sweet again

    We won't say goodnight
    Until the last minute
    I'll hold out my hand
    And my heart will be in it

    For all we know
    This may only be a dream
    We come and we go
    Like the ripples of a stream

    So love me, love me tonight
    tomorrow was made for some
    tomorrow m ...[text shortened]... are blessed and live
    Near the circle of a
    Perfect One?


    --Hafiz (trans. Ladinsky)
    Ah, Hafiz!
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    Just 'cos I'm paranoid doesn't mean I'm wrong.
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