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” If we shadows have offended,
Think but this, and all is mended,
That you have but slumber’d here
While these visions did appear.
And this weak and idle theme,
No more yielding but a dream,
Gentles, do not reprehend:
if you pardon, we will mend:
And, as I am an honest Puck,
If we have unearned luck
Now to ‘scape the serpent’s tongue,
We will make amends ere long;
Else the Puck a liar call;
So, good night unto you all.
Give me your hands, if we be friends,
And Robin shall restore amends.”
A Midsummer Night’s Dream
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Originally posted by JS357Image of the always implicate
unmanifest ground—
from which, in which, and of which
all is—and so we are.
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The explicate is the already-manifest: the already-engendered figure/form/existent. The Gestalt may be fully manifest; but, epistemically at least, it seems that there is always still an implicate ground—as expressed in the four-fold Buddhist formula:
Form is emptiness,
and emptiness is form;
form is also form,
and emptiness, emptiness—
This might also be valid ontologically (even if the implicate ground is always fully manifest in engendered phenomena)—especially in a process ontology, in which the ex-pression of phenomena is dynamic and changing. The ground is the engendering principle of the process (figure/ground) Gestalt. This would not be far off from the Stoics conception of logos as theos, manifest via pneuma—which they considered as a physical phusis force (in their “physics”, sometimes associated with fire, sometimes with air-fire). Jewish kabbalah (as part of the traditional Oral Torah) is similar to this conception as well. The explicate phenomena are transient; the implicate ground is (except if one can conceive of an absolute nihil) not.
This what I mean by (at the risk of redundancy) "gestaltic nondualism" (pantheism).
Some writers (such as in the Zohar) use paradox to indicate the (ineffable) implicate: something like describing your blank as “an imageless image”.
For all we know
We may never meet again
Before you go
Make this moment sweet again
We won't say goodnight
Until the last minute
I'll hold out my hand
And my heart will be in it
For all we know
This may only be a dream
We come and we go
Like the ripples of a stream
So love me, love me tonight
tomorrow was made for some
tomorrow may never come
for all we know
--Sam Lewis & J Fred Coots
It rained during the night
And two puddles formed in the dark
And began chatting.
One said,
“It is so nice to at last be upon this earth
And to meet you as well,
But what will happen when
The brilliant Sun comes
And turns us back into spirit again?”
Dear ones,
Enjoy the night as much as you can.
Why ever trouble your heart with flight,
When you have just arrived
And your body is so full of warm desires.
And look:
So many meadows of soft hair are
Planted upon you.
Why ever trouble yourself with God
When He is so unjudging
And kind
Unless you are blessed and live
Near the circle of a
Perfect One?
--Hafiz (trans. Ladinsky)
Originally posted by LemonJelloAh, Hafiz!For all we know
We may never meet again
Before you go
Make this moment sweet again
We won't say goodnight
Until the last minute
I'll hold out my hand
And my heart will be in it
For all we know
This may only be a dream
We come and we go
Like the ripples of a stream
So love me, love me tonight
tomorrow was made for some
tomorrow m ...[text shortened]... are blessed and live
Near the circle of a
Perfect One?
--Hafiz (trans. Ladinsky)
