Communism.

Originally posted by Rajk999
The system you presented is baseless.

Is it possible for anyone to know in advance [or at all for that matter] who is
".. pure. learned, wise and have the welfare of the people at heart." ??

Persons submitting to the Vedic teachings and living the true spiritual life can easily know who is qualified and who is not.

Persons of false religion and atheists cannot know ultimately what to do or what not to do and the world we all live at present is evidence of this.

Originally posted by Rajk999
I think he said the ".. best political system in the world".

I guess that means he was not theorising. Then he further compared it to another system in existance.

I don't Dasa is saying that any communist government currently in existence is the best in the world. For one thing, none would be sympatheti to his religious views. But I will let him speak for himself.

Originally posted by Dasa
The best political system in the world is communism.

For communism to function effectively the leaders must be pure. learned, wise and have the welfare of the people at heart.

They must know the purpose of the human life.

Democracy is a cheating system allowing the stronger to oppress the weak.

I call democracy.......demoncrazy.

The following are the definitions of democracy and communism given by
wikipedia.

Democracy is a form of government in which all people have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. Ideally, this includes equal (and more or less direct) participation in the proposal, development and passage of legislation into law. It can also encompass social, economic and cultural conditions that enable the free and equal practice of political self-determination.

Communism is a sociopolitical movement that aims for a classless and stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production, free access to articles of consumption, and the end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate.

Are you using different definitions? If not, then explain how your praise of
communism and condemnation of democracy fits with these definitions.

Originally posted by rwingett
For communism to function effectively there must be no leaders. The people must take their own welfare to heart.

In other words - communism can't function in the real world.

communism and democracy are not incompatible.
communism and capitalism are incompatible.

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
communism and democracy are not incompatible.
communism and capitalism are incompatible.

Really? I thought Communism was a system where all are equal but some are more equal than others.

Originally posted by RJHinds
The following are the definitions of democracy and communism given by
wikipedia.

Democracy is a form of government in which all people have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. Ideally, this includes equal (and more or less direct) participation in the proposal, development and passage of legislation into law. It can also encompass soci ...[text shortened]... explain how your praise of
communism and condemnation of democracy fits with these definitions.

Wiki is not the authority on communism.

Veda is the authority.

There is true communism and false communism.

False communism may suggest a classless society - but this is a false idea.

Their are 4 classes of persons in the world and true communism recognizes this.

Originally posted by twhitehead
In other words - communism can't function in the real world.

Best example of what happens when Communism rules is East Germany in the 1950s and 60s. A wasteland where everything was ' verboten ' unless expressly permitted. Or USSR under Stalin.

Originally posted by twhitehead
In other words - communism can't function in the real world.

rwingett doesn't want to live in the real world, he'd rather we all sat in a big dark cave wearing each others 'yesterday's' pants and eating rice from a shared pot.

Dasa would be there too, but only be there if there were no atheists, Christians, Muslims, meat-eaters or 'dishonest' persons. Oh - and as long as he wasn't sitting next to rwingett.

Originally posted by rvsakhadeo
Best example of what happens when Communism rules is East Germany in the 1950s and 60s. A wasteland where everything was ' verboten ' unless expressly permitted. Or USSR under Stalin.

that wasn't communism, it was a dictatorship.

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
that wasn't communism, it was a dictatorship.

It was the dictatorship of the ' proletariat ' as actually practiced. In practice, the communists are no bleeding heart democrats. They ruthlessly eliminate anyone they want by firstly calling him/her as ' the enemy of the people '. Please read Arthur Koestler's novel 'Darkness at noon'. Also recommended is ' Eastern Approaches ' a factual account of USSR under Stalin.

Originally posted by rvsakhadeo
Best example of what happens when Communism rules is East Germany in the 1950s and 60s. A wasteland where everything was ' verboten ' unless expressly permitted. Or USSR under Stalin.

That is dictatorship - not communism. Do not confuse the two concepts. Dasa too is confusing democracy with capitalism.

Originally posted by divegeester
rwingett doesn't want to live in the real world,

Who does?
I too would wish to live in his communism if it was attainable.

I do believe that something closer to his dream than we have is attainable. What neither of us has yet come up with is a way to persuade others, and actually get there.

Originally posted by twhitehead
Who does?
I too would wish to live in his communism if it was attainable.

I do believe that something closer to his dream than we have [b]is attainable. What neither of us has yet come up with is a way to persuade others, and actually get there.[/b]

I wish to live in the Kingdom of God ruled by His Christ.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I wish to live in the Kingdom of God ruled by His Christ.

That's easy, blow your brains out. You'll be there in no time.