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    21 Apr '12 11:50
    you asked somebody if they really thought the big bang created everything. i have a question for you.

    do you think the big bang was capable of creating anything?
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    21 Apr '12 13:29
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    you asked somebody if they really thought the big bang created everything. i have a question for you.

    do you think the big bang was capable of creating anything?
    No comment to this redundant question.
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    21 Apr '12 14:20
    Originally posted by Dasa
    No comment to this redundant question.
    It is not a redundant question.

    Redundant implies that it's a question the answer to which is covered by the answer to
    another question that has been asked.

    As it is the only question being asked in the OP it can't by definition be redundant...


    It is also a relevant question based on arguments you make.

    So it very much deserves and needs to be answered if you were actually engaging in debate
    and discussion of your beliefs rather than just spamming incoherent propaganda and hatred.
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    21 Apr '12 14:26
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    you asked somebody if they really thought the big bang created everything. i have a question for you.

    do you think the big bang was capable of creating anything?
    How could something explode and creates something? unless of course there is a maker.
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    21 Apr '12 14:49
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    How could something explode and creates something? unless of course there is a maker.
    Stars explode and in the process make every natural element heavier than iron.
    (having previously made all the elements up to iron out of hydrogen and helium)

    Nobody makes the stars.
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    21 Apr '12 14:58
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    Stars explode and in the process make every natural element heavier than iron.
    (having previously made all the elements up to iron out of hydrogen and helium)

    Nobody makes the stars.
    How can no star in the begining explode into something?
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    21 Apr '12 15:03
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    How can no star in the begining explode into something?
    If our entire universe was sucked into an enormous black hole, what do you think may happen then?

    That's right we don't know; but it is feasible to hypothesis that the entire matter of the universe could be squeezed so small to blink out of existence - yes?

    Now imagine that process in reverse.
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    21 Apr '12 15:05
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    How can no star in the begining explode into something?
    The big bang wasn't a star exploding.

    I was simply addressing your question of how something could explode without having a creator.

    My answer to which is that stars explode, and don't have a creator.


    As for the big bang...

    There are several possibilities...

    The universe including time started with the big bang singularity.
    Thus there is no before the big bang, and no cause for the big bang.

    Or there was something before the big bang and that an event in that something before caused the
    event we think of as the big bang.
    (there are a host of possibilities for this option)

    Either way there is no need of, or evidence for a creator god or creator of any stripe.

    There may or may not have been a cause, we can't yet tell.
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    21 Apr '12 15:101 edit
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    How could something explode and creates something? unless of course there is a maker.
    You are making too obvious, about what is going on in this thread. 😉

    Does "create" imply "creator"? If we say the BB "creates" are we imbuing it with agency? Choice? Or does the BB creating something, imply a creator behind it?

    Even scientists and science writers, when speaking secularly or in publications, use the word "creation." Biologists speak of creatures, without being accused of a theistic interpretation. Only the most picky peer reviewer would call them on it.

    Dasa is avoiding being drawn into such a discussion.
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    21 Apr '12 19:48
    Originally posted by Dasa
    No comment to this redundant question.
    do you believe in the chemical elements? do you believe they can bond at the molecular level and make other chemicals?
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    21 Apr '12 22:18
    Originally posted by divegeester
    If our entire universe was sucked into an enormous black hole, what do you think may happen then?
    It's not going to.
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    21 Apr '12 22:20
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    It's not going to.
    yes it is.
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    21 Apr '12 22:20
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    The big bang wasn't a star exploding.

    I was simply addressing your question of how something could explode without having a creator.

    My answer to which is that stars explode, and don't have a creator.


    As for the big bang...

    There are several possibilities...

    The universe including time started with the big bang singularity.
    Thus there i ...[text shortened]... r god or creator of any stripe.

    There may or may not have been a cause, we can't yet tell.
    hiroshima and nagasaki are good examples of explosions with out a creator.
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    21 Apr '12 22:21
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    yes it is.
    Prove it.
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    21 Apr '12 22:24
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    It's not going to.
    How do you know?
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