1. Standard memberRJHinds
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    DISCOVERED: The GREAT STONE Owned By Joseph of Arimathaea from the Garden Tomb.

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    21 Apr '15 08:26
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    DISCOVERED: The GREAT STONE Owned By Joseph of Arimathaea from the Garden Tomb.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8BqARq0pXw
    Somebody should edit out the re-enactments and just
    use the "documentary". I wonder what genius decided
    on using a Cockney girl with a lisp for the narration?
    Hilarious. Sounds like she is reading a fairy tale to little
    children.
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    21 Apr '15 08:34
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Somebody should edit out the re-enactments and just
    use the "documentary". I wonder what genius decided
    on using a Cockney girl with a lisp for the narration?
    Hilarious. Sounds like she is reading a fairy tale to little
    children.
    Perhaps you would prefer this narrator better. However they still use re-enactments and it is much longer.

    DISCOVERED: The True Tomb of Jesus & The GREAT Stone to The Tomb.

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    21 Apr '15 09:00
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    DISCOVERED: The GREAT STONE Owned By Joseph of Arimathaea from the Garden Tomb.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8BqARq0pXw
    bwahahahahaha
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    21 Apr '15 17:08
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    DISCOVERED: The GREAT STONE Owned By Joseph of Arimathaea from the Garden Tomb.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8BqARq0pXw
    If proof existed, faith would not be required. Do you believe that faith is not required? Is not, why do you keep looking for proof?
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    21 Apr '15 18:001 edit
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    If proof existed, faith would not be required. Do you believe that faith is not required? Is not, why do you keep looking for proof?
    Any proof will still require faith for one to believe the proof. What I consider proof may not be proof for you if you don't have faith to believe it.
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    21 Apr '15 18:26
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Any proof will still require faith for one to believe the proof. What I consider proof may not be proof for you if you don't have faith to believe it.
    If your proof requires faith to accept it then it is, by definition, not proof.
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    21 Apr '15 18:40
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Any proof will still require faith for one to believe the proof. What I consider proof may not be proof for you if you don't have faith to believe it.
    And yet, if one has faith, is proof required?
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    21 Apr '15 18:43
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    If your proof requires faith to accept it then it is, by definition, not proof.
    proof

    noun

    1. evidence sufficient to establish a thing as true, or to produce belief in its truth.

    2. anything serving as such evidence:
    What proof do you have?

    3. the act of testing or making trial of anything; test; trial:
    to put a thing to the proof.

    4. the establishment of the truth of anything; demonstration.

    5. Law. (in judicial proceedings) evidence having probative weight.

    6. the effect of evidence in convincing the mind.

    7. an arithmetical operation serving to check the correctness of a calculation.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/proof

    Which definition of proof are you referring to?
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    21 Apr '15 18:43
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    If your proof requires faith to accept it then it is, by definition, not proof.
    And if one's faith requires proof to accept it then it is, by definition, not faith.

    (I know you knew that, I was just providing equal time for opposing views. 🙂 More for RJH than for you, of course.)
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    21 Apr '15 18:55
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    And if one's faith requires proof to accept it then it is, by definition, not faith.

    (I know you knew that, I was just providing equal time for opposing views. 🙂 More for RJH than for you, of course.)
    To these He also presented Himself alive after His suffering, by many convincing proofs, appearing to them over a period of forty days and speaking of the things concerning the kingdom of God.

    (Acts 1:3 NASB)

    Having proofs of something does not mean we do not also need faith to believe.
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    05 May '15 05:32
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    To these He also presented Himself alive after His suffering, by many convincing [b]proofs, appearing to them over a period of forty days and speaking of the things concerning the kingdom of God.

    (Acts 1:3 NASB)

    Having proofs of something does not mean we do not also need faith to believe.[/b]
    Come again?

    How can we have "proof" that something exists and yet it still require that we have faith that it exists?
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    05 May '15 09:10
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Come again?

    How can we have "proof" that something exists and yet it still require that we have faith that it exists?
    How can you understand without intelligence? 😏
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    05 May '15 09:20
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    How can you understand without intelligence? 😏
    I'm sorry what do you mean? How does this comment relate to my question which is: If we have PROOF that something exists, then why would we still require FAITH to hope that it exists?
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    05 May '15 09:59
    Originally posted by divegeester
    I'm sorry what do you mean? How does this comment relate to my question which is: If we have PROOF that something exists, then why would we still require FAITH to hope that it exists?
    😴
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