False Prophets

@rajk999 said
Thankfully false prophets can only deceive some people. The elect of God cannot be fooled.

@rajk999 said
Thankfully false prophets can only deceive some people. The elect of God cannot be fooled.

.For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. (Matthew 24:24 KJV)

@kingdavid403 said
Thankfully false prophets can only deceive some people. The elect of God cannot be fooled.
Thanks for proving to us all, that you are clearly not the elect of God. We all knew that anyway.

@Rajk999

Don't overplay your "No going to heaven" card.
You are not that clear yourself.

The multitude in Revelation 19:1, how did they get to heaven unless they went there?

1.) "After these things I heard as it were a loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, saying, Hallelujah! The salvation and the glory and the power are of our God." (v.1)

Did they "go to heaven" ?
Yes, they just don't remain there forever.

2.) What about the 144,000 Firstfruits in Revelation 14 whose singing is heard "out of heaven"? They "went to heaven" at least for a while.

"And I saw, and behold, the Lamb standing on Mount Zion and with Him a hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads.
And I heard a voice out of heaven like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder, . . . " (14:1,2A)

Don't overplay your no going to heaven card. These too at least for a while went up to heaven.

3.) What about the army of overcomers who accompany Christ from heaven down to the battle of Armageddon?

"And the armies which are in heaven followed Him on white horses, dressed in fine linen, white and clean." (Rev 19:14)

They had to have gone to heaven in order to be able to follow Christ down from there.

4.) What about those overcomers raptured out of the great tribulation to stand before the Son of Man in heaven?

"But be watchful at every time, beseeching that you would prevail to escape all these things which are about to happen and stand before the Son of Man." (Luke 21:36)

These prevailed to be raptured to stand before Christ in heaven rather than pass through the great tribulation on earth. So at least for a time they too went to heaven.

Another example of why Witness Lee is a false prophet and his words meaningless mumbo-jumbo:

"The sun signifies Christ...the moon can be considered a figure of the church, the wife of Christ...the stars first signify Christ…although Christ is the real sun, He does not appear as the sun during the present age of night. Rather, He shines as the bright Morning Star."

(The Recovery Version: Footnotes of Genesis)

In case we forget, Witness Lee believed (and said) "God’s move in man is to deify man."

Skeptics here have a two part agenda.

1) Falsely accuse someone.

2.) When defense is made to correct the error complain that the accused is being too highly exalted.

Convenient guerilla warfare skepticism

And while we're on the subject of "false prophets" the atheist who denies the Father and the Son is clearly not to be taken as a spokesperson of the truth.

"Who is a the liar if not he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son." (1 John 2:22)

Ghost of a Duke is surely an atheist and false prophet unqualified to teach anyone the truths of the Christian faith.

"Everyone who denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who confesses the Son has the Father also." (v.23)

Ask this false teacher if he has the Father or the Son of God. You are likely to get a loud proud confession that he has neither and is glad about it.

@sonship said
Skeptics here have a two part agenda.

1) Falsely accuse someone.

2.) When defense is made to correct the error complain that the accused is being too highly exalted.

Convenient guerilla warfare skepticism

And while we're on the subject of "false prophets" the atheist who denies the Father and the Son is clearly not to be taken as a spokesperso ...[text shortened]... Son of God. You are likely to get a loud proud confession that he has neither and is glad about it.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I'm sure this bit of wisdom from Witness Lee will make itself known eventually:

"The unique Creator, God, is triune, signified by the number three. Since the creation is represented before God by four living creatures (Revelation 4:6-9), the number four signifies creatures, especially man. Hence, three plus four means that God is added to the created man, and thus ...[text shortened]... eation and then in the new creation, the church."

(The Recovery Version: Footnotes of Revelation)

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Yes, I am an atheist. This has no bearing on Witness Lee being a charlatan and a false prophet.

@sonship said
Not the least bit concerned with someone for whom a true prophet does not exist.
Hardly concerned with an atheist for whom all servants of God are charlatans by definition.

@sonship said
Not the least bit concerned with someone for whom a true prophet does not exist.
Hardly concerned with an atheist for whom all servants of God are charlatans by definition.

@sonship said
Skeptics here have a two part agenda.

1) Falsely accuse someone.

2.) When defense is made to correct the error complain that the accused is being too highly exalted.

Convenient guerilla warfare skepticism

And while we're on the subject of "false prophets" the atheist who denies the Father and the Son is clearly not to be taken as a spokesperso ...[text shortened]... Son of God. You are likely to get a loud proud confession that he has neither and is glad about it.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

I am not concerned with an atheist shedding crocodile tears over alleged threats to "genuine Christian thought."